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~ Today's Presentation Is From:

Paper Fourteen of The Urantia Book


~ THE CENTRAL AND DIVINE UNIVERSE ~



[introduction]


P.152 - §1 The perfect and divine universe occupies the center of all creation; it is the eternal core around which the vast creations of time and space revolve. Paradise is the gigantic nuclear Isle of absolute stability which rests motionless at the very heart of the magnificent eternal universe. This central planetary family is called Havona and is far-distant from the local universe of Nebadon. It is of enormous dimensions and almost unbelievable mass and consists of one billion spheres of unimagined beauty and superb grandeur, but the true magnitude of this vast creation is really beyond the understanding grasp of the human mind.

P.152 - §2 This is the one and only settled, perfect, and established aggregation of worlds. This is a wholly created and perfect universe; it is not an evolutionary development. This is the eternal core of perfection, about which swirls that endless procession of universes which constitute the tremendous evolutionary experiment, the audacious adventure of the Creator Sons of God, who aspire to duplicate in time and to reproduce in space the pattern universe, the ideal of divine completeness, supreme finality, ultimate reality, and eternal perfection.

1. THE PARADISE-HAVONA SYSTEM [Part 1 of 2]







P.152 - §3 From the periphery of Paradise to the inner borders of the seven superuniverses there are the following seven space conditions and motions:

1. The quiescent midspace zones impinging on Paradise.

2. The clockwise processional of the three Paradise and the seven Havona circuits.

3. The semiquiet space zone separating the Havona circuits from the dark gravity bodies of the central universe.

4. The inner, counterclockwise-moving belt of the dark gravity bodies.

5. The second unique space zone dividing the two space paths of the dark gravity bodies.

6. The outer belt of dark gravity bodies, revolving clockwise around Paradise.

7. A third space zone--a semiquiet zone--separating the outer belt of dark gravity bodies from the innermost circuits of the seven superuniverses.

P.152 - §11 The billion worlds of Havona are arranged in seven concentric circuits immediately surrounding the three circuits of Paradise satellites. There are upwards of thirty-five million worlds in the innermost Havona circuit and over two hundred and forty-five million in the outermost, with proportionate numbers intervening. Each circuit differs, but all are perfectly balanced and exquisitely organized, and each is pervaded by a specialized representation of the Infinite Spirit, one of the Seven Spirits of the Circuits. In addition to other functions this impersonal Spirit co-ordinates the conduct of celestial affairs throughout each circuit.

P.153 - §1 The Havona planetary circuits are not superimposed; their worlds follow each other in an orderly linear procession. The central universe whirls around the stationary Isle of Paradise in one vast plane, consisting of ten concentric stabilized units--the three circuits of Paradise spheres and the seven circuits of Havona worlds. Physically regarded, the Havona and the Paradise circuits are all one and the same system; their separation is in recognition of functional and administrative segregation.

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Welcome B) to the study and discussion of Paper 14 Forum Friends and Visitors,

 

 

Overview - Titles of the Sections:

1. THE PARADISE-HAVONA SYSTEM

2. CONSTITUTION OF HAVONA

3. THE HAVONA WORLDS

4. CREATURES OF THE CENTRAL UNIVERSE

5. LIFE IN HAVONA

6. THE PURPOSE OF THE CENTRAL UNIVERSE

 

[Presented by a Perfector of Wisdom commissioned thus to function by the Ancients of Days on Uversa.]

 

 

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Were you also shocked to learn (in today's reading) that the time/space universes are a grand and audacious experiment?! Haven't forgotten the first time I read it.

 

 

...This is the eternal core of perfection, about which swirls that endless procession of universes which constitute the tremendous evolutionary experiment, the audacious adventure of the Creator Sons of God, who aspire to duplicate in time and to reproduce in space the pattern universe, the ideal of divine completeness, supreme finality, ultimate reality, and eternal perfection.... p152 - 2

 

 

Thanks for reading/studying/discussing.

Rick, for the Forum Staff

 

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Good day All!

 

Thanks Rick!

 

By the way we have a long, long way to go to in procession, B)

and towards the possibility of seeing all these marvels.

 

Some additional quotes:

 

p.647/8-Universal beauty is the recognition of the reflection of the Isle of Paradise in the material creation, while eternal truth is the special ministry of the Paradise Sons who not only bestow themselves upon the mortal races but even pour out their Spirit of Truth upon all peoples. Divine goodness is more fully shown forth in the loving ministry of the manifold personalities of the Infinite Spirit.

But love, the sum total of these three qualities, is man's perception of God as his spirit Father.

 

Physical matter is the time-space shadow of the Paradise energy-shining of the absolute Deities. Truth meanings are the mortal-intellect repercussions of the eternal word of Deity--the time-space comprehension of supreme concepts. The goodness values of divinity are the merciful ministries of the spirit personalities of the Universal, the Eternal, and the Infinite to the time-space finite creatures of the evolutionary spheres

 

p.204-The Father-united Creator Son and Creative Spirit then go forth on their adventure of universe creation. And they work together in this form of association throughout the long and arduous period of the material organization of their universe.

 

... The Life-Creation Era. Upon the declaration of intention to create life by the Creator Son, there ensue on Paradise the "personalization ceremonies," participated in by the Seven Master Spirits and personally experienced by the supervising Master Spirit. This is a Paradise Deity contribution to the individuality of the Spirit consort of the Creator Son and becomes manifest to the universe in the phenomenon of "the primary eruption" in the person of the Infinite Spirit...

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What would be "the primary eruption"?

Maybe some of the forum member want to responding.

Thanks!

 

 

Greetins,

Alina.

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Good day All!

 

Thanks Rick!

 

By the way we have a long, long way to go to in procession, :)

and towards the possibility of seeing all these marvels.

 

Some additional quotes:

 

 

 

 

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What would be "the primary eruption"?

Maybe some of the forum member want to responding.

 

Thanks!

 

:D

 

My 2md reply to "primary eruption?" from Carola

 

Dear Alina,

I had a different answer but after rereading the quote, I realize that through the Father,

then the Eternal Son, who needed help thru His Father, then the Master Spirits all created the

Infinate Spirit which may be called "Primary (first) Eruption (creation).

Does this make sense? :D

Eternally Yours, Carola :)

 

 

 

Greetins,

Alina.

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Reply to: My first answer about the question on "Primary Eruption" From Carola

 

Dear Alina, I guess I should have written my post after your greetins, but please go to my second reply above. After the Icon is my 2nd message to you. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to answer your question. Love Carola

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Welcome to UAI Forum's One-Page-A-Day Online Study Group.

 

~ Today's Presentation Is From:

Paper Fourteen of The Urantia Book


~ THE CENTRAL AND DIVINE UNIVERSE ~

 

1. THE PARADISE-HAVONA SYSTEM

[Part 2 of 2]


P.153 - §2 Time is not reckoned on Paradise; the sequence of successive events is inherent in the concept of those who are indigenous to the central Isle. But time is germane to the Havona circuits and to numerous beings of both celestial and terrestrial origin sojourning thereon. Each Havona world has its own local time, determined by its circuit. All worlds in a given circuit have the same length of year since they uniformly swing around Paradise, and the length of these planetary years decreases from the outermost to the innermost circuit.

P.153 - §3 Besides Havona-circuit time, there is the Paradise-Havona standard day and other time designations which are determined on, and are sent out from, the seven Paradise satellites of the Infinite Spirit. The Paradise-Havona standard day is based on the length of time required for the planetary abodes of the first or inner Havona circuit to complete one revolution around the Isle of Paradise; and though their velocity is enormous, owing to their situation between the dark gravity bodies and gigantic Paradise, it requires almost one thousand years for these spheres to complete their circuit. You have unwittingly read the truth when your eyes rested on the statement "A day is as a thousand years with God, as but a watch in the night." One Paradise-Havona day is just seven minutes, three and one-eighth seconds less than one thousand years of the present Urantia leap-year calendar.

P.153 - §4 This Paradise-Havona day is the standard time measurement for the seven superuniverses, although each maintains its own internal time standards.

P.153 - §5 On the outskirts of this vast central universe, far out beyond the seventh belt of Havona worlds, there swirl an unbelievable number of enormous dark gravity bodies. These multitudinous dark masses are quite unlike other space bodies in many particulars; even in form they are very different. These dark gravity bodies neither reflect nor absorb light; they are nonreactive to physical-energy light, and they so completely encircle and enshroud Havona as to hide it from the view of even near-by inhabited universes of time and space.

P.153 - §6 The great belt of dark gravity bodies is divided into two equal elliptical circuits by a unique space intrusion. The inner belt revolves counterclockwise; the outer revolves clockwise. These alternate directions of motion, coupled with the extraordinary mass of the dark bodies, so effectively equalize the lines of Havona gravity as to render the central universe a physically balanced and perfectly stabilized creation.

P.153 - §7 The inner procession of dark gravity bodies is tubular in arrangement, consisting of three circular groupings. A cross section of this circuit would exhibit three concentric circles of about equal density. The outer circuit of dark gravity bodies is arranged perpendicularly, being ten thousand times higher than the inner circuit. The up-and-down diameter of the outer circuit is fifty thousand times that of the transverse diameter.

P.154 - §1 The intervening space which exists between these two circuits of gravity bodies is unique in that nothing like it is to be found elsewhere in all the wide universe. This zone is characterized by enormous wave movements of an up-and-down nature and is permeated by tremendous energy activities of an unknown order.

P.154 - §2 In our opinion, nothing like the dark gravity bodies of the central universe will characterize the future evolution of the outer space levels; we regard these alternate processions of stupendous gravity-balancing bodies as unique in the master universe.

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Good day Carola, Alina, Forum Members and Guests,

 

...These dark gravity bodies neither reflect nor absorb light; they are nonreactive to physical-energy light, and they so completely encircle and enshroud Havona as to hide it from the view of even near-by inhabited universes of time and space.... P.153 - §5

 

If the dark gravity bodies don't reflect, absorb or react to light, I wonder why we can't see Havona? They must do something to light.

 

Thanks for reading everyone. Your comments, insights and answers are welcome. Rick

 

PS. For student/teachers who enjoy a scholastic environment with a curriculum of topical studies, there is the Urantia Book Internet School. Next semester begins in Jan. 2010.

 

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Hi all!

 

Carola... thank you very much for responding.

That's right. I really wanted "to put my nose :) on another issue, but is complex and I'll leave for later at the right time to discuss another topic

 

Thanks again friend Carol! B)

 

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"You have unwittingly read the truth when your eyes rested on the statement "A day is as a thousand years with God, as but a watch in the night"

 

This is going fast!

But for residents of Havona think it's similar to what we experienced on Urantia because your vibration is chord with the speed of rotation of the sphere as the elapsed time.

For us it is difficult to understand, not in theory but on experience

 

Because it's like the quote says:

 

1220-Only in the higher levels of the superconscious mind as it impinges upon the spirit realm of human experience can you find those higher concepts in association with effective master patterns which will contribute to the building of a better and more enduring civilization. Personality is inherently creative, but it thus functions only in the inner life of the individual.

 

Quote Rick:

If the dark gravity bodies don't reflect, absorb or react to light, I wonder why we can't see Havona? They must do something to light.

 

It must be so, for me the dark gravity bodies are invisible in the eyes of the curious, but hidden from our view the nuclear island. It is related to the vibration too.

Besides the data that we lack.

 

P.154 - §2 In our opinion, nothing like the dark gravity bodies of the central universe will characterize the future evolution of the outer space levels; we regard these alternate processions of stupendous gravity-balancing bodies as unique in the master universe.

 

Love all.

Alina.

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Hi All,

 

Yes, much lack of data Alina!

 

But I'm still wrestling with the data we have, in the last sentence of the quote below. I think I understand that the outer belt is like a great circular wall, or great flattened tube.

 

...The inner procession of dark gravity bodies is tubular in arrangement, consisting of three circular groupings. A cross section of this circuit would exhibit three concentric circles of about equal density. The outer circuit of dark gravity bodies is arranged perpendicularly, being ten thousand times higher than the inner circuit. The up-and-down diameter of the outer circuit is fifty thousand times that of the transverse diameter.... P.153 - §7

 

Later B) rw

 

 

 

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Could this be an explanation Rick?

 

The up-and-down diameter of the outer circuit is fifty thousand times that of the transverse diameter....

 

This description I understand it we are told.

A circle too high then a lower one, then another still lower, tubular but elliptical.

If makes a cut in cross-sectional observe the three concentric circles B)

mmm... but elliptical ?

 

Uyy, that confusion I'm doing!

 

Moreover:

The dark gravity bodies encircling Havona are neither triata nor gravita, and their drawing power discloses both forms of physical gravity, linear and absolute..p-126

 

Better I'll keep thinking... or here is the answer:

 

The ellipse in celestial mechanics

 

In celestial mechanics, a body under the gravitational pull of another, which revolves around an elliptical orbit ideal. One focus of the ellipse coincides with the attractor body. The eccentricity of the trajectory depends on initial conditions. This is described in Kepler's laws.

 

In mathematics, an ellipse (from Greek ἔλλειψις elleipsis, a "falling short") is the bounded case of a conic section, the geometric shape that results from cutting a circular conical or cylindrical surface with an oblique plane (the two unbounded cases being the parabola and the hyperbola). It is also the locus of all points of the plane whose distances to two fixed points add to the same constant.

 

Ellipses also arise as images of a circle or a sphere under parallel projection, and some cases of perspective projection. Indeed, circles are special cases of ellipses. An ellipse is also the closed and bounded case of an implicit curve of degree 2, and of a rational curve of degree 2. It is also the simplest Lissajous figure, formed when the horizontal and vertical motions are sinusoids with the same frequency.

From Wikipedia

 

 

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Welcome to UAI Forum's One-Page-A-Day Online Study Group.


~ Today's Presentation Is From:

Paper Fourteen of The Urantia Book


~ THE CENTRAL AND DIVINE UNIVERSE ~

 

2. CONSTITUTION OF HAVONA


P.154 - §3 Spirit beings do not dwell in nebulous space; they do not inhabit ethereal worlds; they are domiciled on actual spheres of a material nature, worlds just as real as those on which mortals live. The Havona worlds are actual and literal, albeit their literal substance differs from the material organization of the planets of the seven superuniverses.

P.154 - §4 The physical realities of Havona represent an order of energy organization radically different from any prevailing in the evolutionary universes of space. Havona energies are threefold; superuniverse units of energy-matter contain a twofold energy charge, although one form of energy exists in negative and positive phases. The creation of the central universe is threefold (Trinity); the creation of a local universe (directly) is twofold, by a Creator Son and a Creative Spirit.

P.154 - §5 The material of Havona consists of the organization of exactly one thousand basic chemical elements and the balanced function of the seven forms of Havona energy. Each of these basic energies manifests seven phases of excitation, so that the Havona natives respond to forty-nine differing sensation stimuli. In other words, viewed from a purely physical standpoint, the natives of the central universe possess forty-nine specialized forms of sensation. The morontia senses are seventy, and the higher spiritual orders of reaction response vary in different types of beings from seventy to two hundred and ten.

P.154 - §6 None of the physical beings of the central universe would be visible to Urantians. Neither would any of the physical stimuli of those faraway worlds excite a reaction in your gross sense organs. If a Urantia mortal could be transported to Havona, he would there be deaf, blind, and utterly lacking in all other sense reactions; he could only function as a limited self-conscious being deprived of all environmental stimuli and all reactions thereto.

P.154 - §7 There are numerous physical phenomena and spiritual reactions transpiring in the central creation which are unknown on worlds such as Urantia. The basic organization of a threefold creation is wholly unlike that of the twofold constitution of the created universes of time and space.

P.154 - §8 All natural law is co-ordinated on a basis entirely different than in the dual-energy systems of the evolving creations. The entire central universe is organized in accordance with the threefold system of perfect and symmetrical control. Throughout the whole Paradise-Havona system there is maintained a perfect balance between all cosmic realities and all spiritual forces. Paradise, with an absolute grasp of material creation, perfectly regulates and maintains the physical energies of this central universe; the Eternal Son, as a part of his all-embracing spirit grasp, most perfectly sustains the spiritual status of all who indwell Havona. On Paradise nothing is experimental, and the Paradise-Havona system is a unit of creative perfection.

P.155 - §1 The universal spiritual gravity of the Eternal Son is amazingly active throughout the central universe. All spirit values and spiritual personalities are unceasingly drawn inward towards the abode of the Gods. This Godward urge is intense and inescapable. The ambition to attain God is stronger in the central universe, not because spirit gravity is stronger than in the outlying universes, but because those beings who have attained Havona are more fully spiritualized and hence more responsive to the ever-present action of the universal spirit-gravity pull of the Eternal Son.

P.155 - §2 Likewise does the Infinite Spirit draw all intellectual values Paradiseward. Throughout the central universe the mind gravity of the Infinite Spirit functions in liaison with the spirit gravity of the Eternal Son, and these together constitute the combined urge of the ascendant souls to find God, to attain Deity, to achieve Paradise, and to know the Father.

P.155 - §3 Havona is a spiritually perfect and physically stable universe. The control and balanced stability of the central universe appear to be perfect. Everything physical or spiritual is perfectly predictable, but mind phenomena and personality volition are not. We do infer that sin can be reckoned as impossible of occurrence, but we do this on the ground that the native freewill creatures of Havona have never been guilty of transgressing the will of Deity. Through all eternity these supernal beings have been consistently loyal to the Eternals of Days. Neither has sin appeared in any creature who has entered Havona as a pilgrim. There has never been an instance of misconduct by any creature of any group of personalities ever created in, or admitted to, the central Havona universe. So perfect and so divine are the methods and means of selection in the universes of time that never in the records of Havona has an error occurred; no mistakes have ever been made; no ascendant soul has ever been prematurely admitted to the central universe.

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Could this be an explanation Rick?

 

The up-and-down diameter of the outer circuit is fifty thousand times that of the transverse diameter....

 

This description I understand it we are told.

A circle too high then a lower one, then another still lower, tubular but elliptical.

If makes a cut in cross-sectional observe the three concentric circles B)

mmm... but elliptical ?

 

Uyy, that confusion I'm doing!

 

Moreover:

 

 

Better I'll keep thinking... or here is the answer:

 

The ellipse in celestial mechanics

 

In celestial mechanics, a body under the gravitational pull of another, which revolves around an elliptical orbit ideal. One focus of the ellipse coincides with the attractor body. The eccentricity of the trajectory depends on initial conditions. This is described in Kepler's laws.

 

In mathematics, an ellipse (from Greek ἔλλειψις elleipsis, a "falling short") is the bounded case of a conic section, the geometric shape that results from cutting a circular conical or cylindrical surface with an oblique plane (the two unbounded cases being the parabola and the hyperbola). It is also the locus of all points of the plane whose distances to two fixed points add to the same constant.

 

Ellipses also arise as images of a circle or a sphere under parallel projection, and some cases of perspective projection. Indeed, circles are special cases of ellipses. An ellipse is also the closed and bounded case of an implicit curve of degree 2, and of a rational curve of degree 2. It is also the simplest Lissajous figure, formed when the horizontal and vertical motions are sinusoids with the same frequency.

From Wikipedia

 

 

Alina.

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Oh my goodness. You certainly know a lot of new words for me to look up in my dictionary.

Congradulations for all your information. I never took geometry and I am reeling with all

that I am not understanding, but don't worry, I am a very persistant individual and will probably,

know how to decipher all that you have offered us. :) Love Carola

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Hi Alina, Carola, Forum Friends,

 

Alina, that outer group of gravity bodies is one elooooooooooooooooooooongated ellipse, isn't it!?

 

...The up-and-down diameter of the outer circuit is fifty thousand times that of the transverse diameter.... P.153 - §7

 

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Looking at today's reading, isn't it curious that Havonites have fewer senses than a Morontian?

 

...In other words, viewed from a purely physical standpoint, the natives of the central universe possess forty-nine specialized forms of sensation. The morontia senses are seventy, and the higher spiritual orders of reaction response vary in different types of beings from seventy to two hundred and ten.... P.154 - §5

 

210! The Universe must be far more complex and nuanced than I can imagine. What is there to sense besides taste, touch, hearing, sight, smell, direction and time? Truth? Law? Music? Love? Philosophy?

 

Good studying, Rick

 

 

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The Universe must be far more complex and nuanced than I can imagine. What is there to sense besides taste, touch, hearing, sight, smell, direction and time? Truth? Law? Music? Love? Philosophy?.

 

What about mind gravity and spirit gravity? We actually have these senses now and can begin to develop them right here on earth through prayer and meditative thinking. There is much, much more available to us than we are commonly aware of.

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Oh my goodness. You certainly know a lot of new words for me to look up in my dictionary.

Congradulations for all your information. I never took geometry and I am reeling with all

that I am not understanding, but don't worry, I am a very persistant individual and will probably,know how to decipher all that you have offered us. ohmy.gif Love Carola.

 

Well Carola, we must not slacken. Always forward. B)

 

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Hi all!

Good day!

 

Yes Rick...is one elooooooongate ellipse

I should not write when I'm sleepy.

 

...In other words, viewed from a purely physical standpoint, the natives of the central universe possess forty-nine specialized forms of sensation. The morontia senses are seventy, and the higher spiritual orders of reaction response vary in different types of beings from seventy to two hundred and ten.... P.154 - §5

 

 

How curious! Maybe could be that they not need many senses,because they have sufficient and very acute and specialized?

They have quite elaborate. [/ Color]

 

Who know exactly how are these heavenly beings?

 

I think that Descending Son of Paradise can give us an idea of their skill, but of course, there are more much more...

 

Complementary quotes:

 

p.223-AS THEY function in the superuniverse of Orvonton, the Sons of God are classified under three general heads:

 

1. The Descending Sons of God.

2. The Ascending Sons of God.

3. The Trinitized Sons of God.

 

Descending orders of sonship include personalities who are of direct and divine creation. Ascending sons, such as mortal creatures, achieve this status by experiential participation in the creative technique known as evolution. Trinitized Sons are a group of composite origin which includes all beings embraced by the Paradise Trinity even though not of direct Trinity origin.

 

 

THE DESCENDING SONS OF GOD

All descending Sons of God have high and divine origins. They are dedicated to the descending ministry of service on the worlds and systems of time and space, there to facilitate the progress in the Paradise climb of the lowly creatures of evolutionary origin--the ascending sons of God. Of the numerous orders of descending Sons, seven will be depicted in these narratives. Those Sons who come forth from the Deities on the central Isle of Light and Life are called the Paradise Sons of God and embrace the following three orders:

 

 

1. Creator Sons--the Michaels.

2. Magisterial Sons--the Avonals.

3. Trinity Teacher Sons--the Daynals.

 

The remaining four orders of descending sonship are known as the Local Universe Sons of God:

4. Melchizedek Sons.

5. Vorondadek Sons.

6. Lanonandek Sons.

7. The Life Carriers.

 

As the Paradise orders of Days proved to be divine administrators, so have the orders of Paradise Sons revealed themselves as divine ministers--creators, servers, bestowers, judges, teachers, and truth revealers. They range the universe of universes from the shores of the eternal Isle to the inhabited worlds of time and space, performing manifold services in the central and superuniverses not disclosed in these narratives. They are variously organized, dependent on the nature and whereabouts of their service, but in a local universe both Magisterial and Teacher Sons serve under the direction of the Creator Son who presides over that domain

 

The Creator Sons seem to possess a spiritual endowment centering in their persons, which they control and which they can bestow, as did your own Creator Son when he poured out his spirit upon all mortal flesh on Urantia. Each Creator Son is endowed with this spiritual drawing power in his own realm; he is personally conscious of every act and emotion of every descending Son of God serving in his domain. Here is a divine reflection, a local universe duplication, of that absolute spiritual drawing power of the Eternal Son which enables him to reach out to make and maintain contact with all his Paradise Sons, no matter where they may be in all the universe of universes. p. 224

 

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Quote Bonita:

 

What about mind gravity and spirit gravity? We actually have these senses now and can begin to develop them right here on earth through prayer and meditative thinking. There is much, much more available to us than we are commonly aware of.

 

 

 

I agree with you Bonita, responsiveness to gravity may be one among many, of course.

Also potentially many mortals possess capabilities that we have not yet awakened.

Mainly in relation with the sensitive, rather than the sensory .

And of these there are many.

Many beings already know from the UB, which possess unusual abilities.

Many can be developed by us in the ascending scale.

The difference is, of course, we are talking about native beings of Havona.

But the study of what humans might be able to update and pespectiva, gives us some more elements to sense something about the Son of Paradise.

 

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Welcome to UAI Forum's One-Page-A-Day Online Study Group.

 

~ Today's Presentation Is From:

Paper Fourteen of The Urantia Book


~ THE CENTRAL AND DIVINE UNIVERSE ~

 

3. THE HAVONA WORLDS


P.155 - §4 Concerning the government of the central universe, there is none. Havona is so exquisitely perfect that no intellectual system of government is required. There are no regularly constituted courts, neither are there legislative assemblies; Havona requires only administrative direction. Here may be observed the height of the ideals of true self-government.

P.155 - §5 There is no need of government among such perfect and near-perfect intelligences. They stand in no need of regulation, for they are beings of native perfection interspersed with evolutionary creatures who have long since passed the scrutiny of the supreme tribunals of the superuniverses.

P.155 - §6 The administration of Havona is not automatic, but it is marvelously perfect and divinely efficient. It is chiefly planetary and is vested in the resident Eternal of Days, each Havona sphere being directed by one of these Trinity-origin personalities. Eternals of Days are not creators, but they are perfect administrators. They teach with supreme skill and direct their planetary children with a perfection of wisdom bordering on absoluteness.

P.156 - §1 The billion spheres of the central universe constitute the training worlds of the high personalities native to Paradise and Havona and further serve as the final proving grounds for ascending creatures from the evolutionary worlds of time. In the execution of the Universal Father's great plan of creature ascension the pilgrims of time are landed on the receiving worlds of the outer or seventh circuit, and subsequent to increased training and enlarged experience, they are progressively advanced inward, planet by planet and circle by circle, until they finally attain the Deities and achieve residence on Paradise.

P.156 - §2 At present, although the spheres of the seven circuits are maintained in all their supernal glory, only about one per cent of all planetary capacity is utilized in the work of furthering the Father's universal plan of mortal ascension. About one tenth of one per cent of the area of these enormous worlds is dedicated to the life and activities of the Corps of the Finality, beings eternally settled in light and life who often sojourn and minister on the Havona worlds. These exalted beings have their personal residences on Paradise.

P.156 - §3 The planetary construction of the Havona spheres is entirely unlike that of the evolutionary worlds and systems of space. Nowhere else in all the grand universe is it convenient to utilize such enormous spheres as inhabited worlds. Triata physical constitution, coupled with the balancing effect of the immense dark gravity bodies, makes it possible so perfectly to equalize the physical forces and so exquisitely to balance the various attractions of this tremendous creation. Antigravity is also employed in the organization of the material functions and the spiritual activities of these enormous worlds.

P.156 - §4 The architecture, lighting, and heating, as well as the biologic and artistic embellishment, of the Havona spheres, are quite beyond the greatest possible stretch of human imagination. You cannot be told much about Havona; to understand its beauty and grandeur you must see it. But there are real rivers and lakes on these perfect worlds.

P.156 - §5 Spiritually these worlds are ideally appointed; they are fittingly adapted to their purpose of harboring the numerous orders of differing beings who function in the central universe. Manifold activities take place on these beautiful worlds which are far beyond human comprehension.

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Hi Bonita, Alina, Forum Friends,

 

It sounds like we will visit all the billion worlds, no? If we spend just one Urantian sized year on each, that's a billion. Maybe we spend one Paradise day (1000 Urantia years!) on each, that's only a trillion. Such an odyssey we are on. Real rivers and lakes, heating, lighting, biological organisms of a billion perfect varieties, these can be found on Father's grand carosel, ever swinging around Paradise.

 

Just for fun, readers on another site theorized about the approximate numbers in each of the seven circuits of the Havona worlds, based in this statement from the Perfector of Wisdom:

 

...There are upwards of thirty-five million worlds in the innermost Havona circuit and over two hundred and forty-five million in the outermost, with proportionate numbers intervening.... p152-3

 

c1 = 37,000,000

 

c2 = 74,000,000

 

c3 = 107,000,000

 

c4 = 144,000,000

 

c5 = 177,000,000

 

c6 = 214,000,000

 

c7 = 247,000,000

 

 

Havona World Count Theory

 

Much love, Rick

 

 

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Hi Bonita, Alina, Forum Friends,

 

It sounds like we will visit all the billion worlds, no? If we spend just one Urantian sized year on each, that's a billion. Maybe we spend one Paradise day (1000 Urantia years!) on each, that's only a trillion. Such an odyssey we are on. Real rivers and lakes, heating, lighting, biological organisms of a billion perfect varieties, these can be found on Father's grand carosel, ever swinging around Paradise.

 

I'll be honest with you Rick. I spend zero time speculating about these things. I'm primarily concerned with the training and proving grounds aspect of all of this. How will I serve, what will I do to prove my loyalty? I don't really care about where or when, how long, or what the spectacular sights might be. It's just my peculiar way of looking at things.

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Wou! mentally it's impossible to cover so many areas!

But it appears to be comfortable enough for a holiday according to the description.

No energy problems of any kind. The Eternals of Days are good stewards.

And the best part is that governments are not necesary B)

P.155 - §5 There is no need of government among such perfect and near-perfect intelligences. They stand in no need of regulation, for they are beings of native perfection interspersed with evolutionary creatures who have long since passed the scrutiny of the supreme tribunals of the superuniverses.

 

P.155 - §6 The administration of Havona is not automatic, but it is marvelously perfect and divinely efficient. It is chiefly planetary and is vested in the resident Eternal of Days, each Havona sphere being directed by one of these Trinity-origin personalities. Eternals of Days are not creators, but they are perfect administrators. They teach with supreme skill and direct their planetary children with a perfection of wisdom bordering on absoluteness

 

 

Each of the billion worlds of Havona is directed by a Supreme Trinity Personality. These rulers are known as the Eternals of Days, and they number exactly one billion, one for each of the Havona spheres. They are the offspring of the Paradise Trinity, but like the Secrets of Supremacy there are no records of their origin. Forever have these two groups of all-wise fathers ruled their exquisite worlds of the Paradise-Havona system, and they function without rotation or reassignment.

 

The Eternals of Days are visible to all will creatures dwelling in their domains. They preside over the regular planetary conclaves. Periodically, and by rotation, they visit the headquarters spheres of the seven superuniverses. They are close of kin to, and are the divine equals of, the Ancients of Days, who preside over the destinies of the seven supergovernments. When an Eternal of Days is absent from his sphere, his world is directed by a Trinity Teacher Son.

 

Except for the established orders of life, such as the Havona natives and other living creatures of the central universe, the resident Eternals of Days have developed their respective spheres entirely in accordance with their own personal ideas and ideals. They visit each other's planets, but they do not copy or imitate; they are always and wholly original.

 

The architecture, natural embellishment, morontia structures, and spirit creations are exclusive and unique on each sphere. Every world is a place of everlasting beauty and is wholly unlike any other world in the central universe. And you will each spend a longer or shorter time on each of these unique and thrilling spheres on your way inward through Havona to Paradise. It is natural, on your world, to speak of Paradise as upward, but it would be more correct to refer to the divine goal of ascension as inward.Page 208/9

 

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Welcome to UAI Forum's One-Page-A-Day Online Study Group.

 

~ Today's Presentation Is From:

Paper Fourteen of The Urantia Book


~ THE CENTRAL AND DIVINE UNIVERSE ~

 

4. CREATURES OF THE CENTRAL UNIVERSE

[Part 1 of 2]

 

P.156 - §6 There are seven basic forms of living things and beings on the Havona worlds, and each of these basic forms exists in three distinct phases. Each of these three phases is divided into seventy major divisions, and each major division is composed of one thousand minor divisions, with yet other subdivisions, and so on. These basic life groups might be classified as:

1. Material.
2. Morontial.
3. Spiritual.
4. Absonite.
5. Ultimate.
6. Coabsolute.
7. Absolute.

P.157 - §1 Decay and death are not a part of the cycle of life on the Havona worlds. In the central universe the lower living things undergo the transmutation of materialization. They do change form and manifestation, but they do not resolve by process of decay and cellular death.

P.157 - §2 The Havona natives are all the offspring of the Paradise Trinity. They are without creature parents, and they are nonreproducing beings. We cannot portray the creation of these citizens of the central universe, beings who never were created. The entire story of the creation of Havona is an attempt to time-space an eternity fact which has no relation to time or space as mortal man comprehends them. But we must concede human philosophy a point of origin; even personalities far above the human level require a concept of "beginnings." Nevertheless, the Paradise-Havona system is eternal.

P.157 - §3 The natives of Havona live on the billion spheres of the central universe in the same sense that other orders of permanent citizenship dwell on their respective spheres of nativity. As the material order of sonship carries on the material, intellectual, and spiritual economy of a billion local systems in a superuniverse, so, in a larger sense, do the Havona natives live and function on the billion worlds of the central universe. You might possibly regard these Havoners as material creatures in the sense that the word "material" could be expanded to describe the physical realities of the divine universe.

P.157 - §4 There is a life that is native to Havona and possesses significance in and of itself. Havoners minister in many ways to Paradise descenders and to superuniverse ascenders, but they also live lives that are unique in the central universe and have relative meaning quite apart from eith
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Good Friday Bonita, Alina, Opad Friends,

 

 

Maybe we're all a little "peculiar" Bonita. But I've noticed my peculiarities (could they also be called interests?)evolve, I wasn't always fascinated by universe unknowns, philosophy or revelation. And maybe I'm wrong to believe knowledge is a whole--any part left behind drags on the whole and retards total progress. No?

 

Can we even imagine a governmentless society Alina!? I'm trying to imagine also, what the life of a perfect Havonite could be about apart from ministering to the descending and ascending. From today's reading:

 

 

...There is a life that is native to Havona and possesses significance in and of itself.... P.157 - §4

 

There is so much to know and discover for we universe beginners, no wonder it will take forever.

 

 

Much love, Rick

 

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And maybe I'm wrong to believe knowledge is a whole--any part left behind drags on the whole and retards total progress. No?

Much love, Rick

 

I don't think we are actually studying about the universe unknowns. We are fantasizing about what we've been told about them. Big difference. Awareness of their existence whets the appetite for the actual experience and the mind desires and anticipates the experience with its imagination.

 

There is a difference between seeking knowledge and seeking the knowledge of truth. TUB has given us the facts and we are responsible for obtaining the experience. The process is supposed to work together. I enjoyed reading about the Central Universe, but I am not studying it with my imagination. I have been given the knowledge of it and now need to experience it, not play with it. Since I can't experience it for a few billion years, I have other things to do.

 

130:4.10    Knowledge is the sphere of the material or fact-discerning mind. Truth is the domain of the spiritually endowed intellect that is conscious of knowing God. Knowledge is demonstrable; truth is experienced. Knowledge is a possession of the mind; truth an experience of the soul, the progressing self. Knowledge is a function of the nonspiritual level; truth is a phase of the mind-spirit level of the universes. The eye of the material mind perceives a world of factual knowledge; the eye of the spiritualized intellect discerns a world of true values. These two views, synchronized and harmonized, reveal the world of reality, wherein wisdom interprets the phenomena of the universe in terms of progressive personal experience.

 

So, are you saying that because I don't seek knowledge of . . . hmm, let's see . . . Bell's Theorem on Local Hidden Variables, I'm retarding the whole of knowledge? That's absurd! If this forum doesn't want to study and seek knowledge of other religions, is it retarding the whole?

 

True knowledge is spirit led. Where my spirit leads me may be not where your spirit leads you. But united together, we make up the whole.

 

p1111:8 101:6.4 The evolutionary type of knowledge is but the accumulation of protoplasmic memory material; this is the most primitive form of creature consciousness. Wisdom embraces the ideas formulated from protoplasmic memory in process of association and recombination, and such phenomena differentiate human mind from mere animal mind. Animals have knowledge, but only man possesses wisdom capacity. Truth is made accessible to the wisdom-endowed individual by the bestowal on such a mind of the spirits of the Father and the Sons, the Thought Adjuster and the Spirit of Truth.

 

All truth on our level is relative. Relative to what? Experience, not daydreaming. That doesn't mean that daydreaming is wrong, but there must be a practical application of one's daydreaming if it is to be a part of reality. The practical application of daydreaming about the Havona worlds is goal setting and hope inspiring. TUB tells us that the purpose of the creative imagination is to inspire faith, not knowledge.

 

p1459:5 132:3.5 Faith is the inspiration of the spiritized creative imagination.

 

So, that's it for me . . . back to the living truth on this beautiful world.

 

102:2.4  Knowledge is an eternal quest; always are you learning, but never are you able to arrive at the full knowledge of absolute truth. In knowledge alone there can never be absolute certainty, only increasing probability of approximation; but the religious soul of spiritual illumination knows, and knows now. And yet this profound and positive certitude does not lead such a sound-minded religionist to take any less interest in the ups and downs of the progress of human wisdom, which is bound up on its material end with the developments of slow-moving science

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Your points are well taken Bonita,

 

Always enjoy your reflections. But I orginally sensed a tad of distain from you for speculation about revelations on lives and worlds so very far removed from little Urantia. It's sometimes difficult to see you thru email B)

 

These teachings, pointing to the lives of Havoners might seem faraway and a distraction from this beautiful life, but I can't forget that I am now a member of the cosmic family (and hope to remain so!) As such, I want to know, and will eventually learn about, the complexities of this mysterious Universe we find ourselves heir to. And if cross fertilization and exchange of knowledge about each other works well on the planetary scale--What can it do on a cosmic scale?!

 

I also am reminded of the revealed facts about our pattern personalities now residing in Havona. What will it be like to meet this being after whom you were patterned? Havona is an immensely curious place to me, but can I enjoy the long journey there, while serving (and being served) my siblings here and now? YES! But daydreaming of Paradise and Havona strengthens my conceptual understanding of the whole cosmos. Experince keeps me grounded :)

 

Later! Experiencing picking Mom up at the barber, rw

 

 

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Good Day All!

 

No Rick, I can not imagine society governmentless on Urantia! Horrorrr. B)

Only in Paradise, we have a chance to contemplate this Ideal, the imaginative projection of that world of perfection.

 

Mankind's struggle to perfect government on Urantia has to do with perfecting channels of administration, with adapting them to ever-changing current needs, with improving power distribution within government, and then with selecting such administrative leaders as are truly wise. While there is a divine and ideal form of government, such cannot be revealed but must be slowly and laboriously discovered by the men and women of each planet throughout the universes of time and space.p.799

[Presented by a Melchizedek of Nebadon.]

 

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Creaturas of the Central Universe.

 

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p330-The personalities and other-than-personal entities now functioning on Paradise and in the grand universe constitute a well-nigh limitless number of living beings. Even the number of major orders and types would stagger the human imagination, let alone the countless subtypes and variations. It is, however, desirable to present something of two basic classifications of living beings--a suggestion of the Paradise classification and an abbreviation of the Uversa Personality Register.

 

It is not possible to formulate comprehensive and entirely consistent classifications of the personalities of the grand universe because all of the groups are not revealed. It would require numerous additional papers to cover the further revelation required to systematically classify all groups. Such conceptual expansion would hardly be desirable as it would deprive the thinking mortals of the next thousand years of that stimulus to creative speculation which these partially revealed concepts supply. It is best that man not have an overrevelation; it stifles imagination

Alina.

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