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Good Day Carolyn, NelsonG, Alina, Raymond, Carola, Fellow Students, Forum Friends, Members and Guests,

 

By the time Jesus incarnated on Urantia Greece was past its prime, Rome had taken the lead in world affairs, at least in the West. But, evidently, Greece was still respected and remembered. Plato had started and lectured in the halls of the Academy only four centuries before Jesus and friends arrived, followed by Aristotle:

 

...A great university still thrived in Athens, and the trio made frequent visits to its halls of learning.... P.1476 - 4

 

 

The Academy, was founded by Plato (424/423 BC – 348/347 BC) in ca. 387 BC in Athens. Aristotle (384 BC – 322 BC) studied there for twenty years (367 BC – 347 BC) before founding his own school, the Lyceum. The Academy persisted throughout the Hellenistic period as a skeptical school, until coming to an end after the death of Philo of Larissa in 83 BC. Although philosophers continued to teach Plato's philosophy in Athens during the Roman era, it was not until AD 410 that a revived Academy was re-established as a center for Neoplatonism, persisting until 529 AD when it was finally closed down by Justinian I.

 

 

 

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...They all enjoyed the art of Greece, examples of which were still to be found here and there about the city.... P.1476 - 4

 

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Laocoön and His Sons (Late Hellenistic), Vatican Museum

 

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So-called Venus Braschi by Praxiteles, type of the Knidian Aphrodite, Munich Glyptothek.

 

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Reconstructed colour scheme of the entablature on a Doric temple.

 

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Today's reading, this Midwayer updated lecture on science by the Master, begins by stating the obvious mystery: We know energies and things exist, but not what they truly ARE, nor their origin.

 

...Scientists may some day measure the energy, or force manifestations, of gravitation, light, and electricity, but these same scientists can never (scientifically) tell you what these universe phenomena are.... P.1476 - 6

 

We must note here: "some day" has arrived!

 

 

 

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Next, we are shown a clear delineation between the realms of matter (visible) and the substance of character (invisible):

 

...Science deals with physical-energy activities; religion deals with eternal values....P.1476 - 6

 

 

Everyone sooner or later discovers that intellectualism has its deadly pitfalls:

 

...There always exists the danger that the purely physical scientist may become afflicted with mathematical pride and statistical egotism, not to mention spiritual blindness.... P.1476 - 6

 

 

This bit of wisdom is reflected elsewhere in the UB:

 

...A social group of human beings in co-ordinated working harmony stands for a force far greater than the simple sum of its parts.... P.1477 - 1

 

From Paper 81:6:

 

...Ten men are of little more value than one in lifting a great load unless they lift together--all at the same moment.... P.911 - 2

 

From 28:5:

 

...One of the most important lessons to be learned during your mortal career is teamwork.... P.312 - 1

 

 

 

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Here the Midwayers use italics to encapsulate Jesus' comprehensive teaching on three universe phenomena: fact, value and unity:

 

...Quantity may be identified as a fact, thus becoming a scientific uniformity. Quality, being a matter of mind interpretation, represents an estimate of values, and must, therefore, remain an experience of the individual. When both science and religion become less dogmatic and more tolerant of criticism, philosophy will then begin to achieve unity in the intelligent comprehension of the universe.... P.1477 - 2

 

Now we know unity is a Universe goal, physical, mindal and spiritual unity, beginning with the individual and culminating in the Whole:

 

...The real problem is: How can the finite mind of man achieve a logical, true, and corresponding unity of thought? This universe-knowing state of mind can be had only by conceiving that the quantitative fact and the qualitative value have a common causation in the Paradise Father.... P.1477 - 3

 

In today's reading is repeated the revelation of how matter forms:

 

...When the energies of the universe are so slowed down that they acquire the requisite degree of motion, then, under favorable conditions, these same energies become mass.... P.1477 - 5

 

From Paper 42:5:

 

...These short and powerful rays represent the initial activity of the ultimatons as they are slowed down to that point where they veer towards the electronic organization of matter.... P.474 - 8

 

 

One has to wonder how much of this could be absorbed by these men of ancient Athens, especially if Jesus actually alluded to the Supreme and the Absolutes. At least one was impressed with Jesus, if not also his teachings:

 

"...At last my eyes have beheld a Jew who thinks something besides racial superiority and talks something besides religion...." P.1477 - 6

 

Apparently and unfortunately his teachings were largely ignored and forgotten by a self-satisfied, backward-looking, lack-luster academia:

 

...Too many of the Athenians of that day were either intellectually proud of their reputation of another day or mentally stupid and ignorant.... P.1477 - 7

 

 

The Midwayers end today's reading:

 

...there were still many keen minds to be found among the citizens of Athens.... P.1477 - 7

 

 

Greece under Roman dominance, from Wikipedia:

 

...Life in Greece continued under the Roman Empire much the same as it had previously. Roman culture was highly influenced by the Greeks; as Horace said: Captive Greece captured her rude conqueror. The epics of Homer inspired the Aeneid of Virgil, and authors such as Seneca the younger wrote using Greek styles. The Roman nobles, who regarded the Greeks as backwards and petty, were the main political opponents of Roman heroes such as Scipio Africanus, who tended to study philosophy and regard Greek culture and science as an example to be followed. Similarly, most Roman emperors maintained an admiration for things Greek in nature. The Roman Emperor Nero visited Greece in 66 AD, and performed at the Ancient Olympic Games, despite the rules against non-Greek participation. He was, of course, honoured with a victory in every contest, and in 67 AD he proclaimed the freedom of the Greeks at the Isthmian Games in Corinth, just as Flamininus had over 200 years previously. Hadrian was also particularly fond of the Greeks; before he became emperor he served as an eponymous archon of Athens. He also built his Arch of Hadrian there.

 

At the same time Greece and much of the rest of the Roman east came under the influence of Early Christianity. The apostle Paul of Tarsus had preached in Macedon and Athens, and Greece soon became one of the most highly Christianized areas of the empire.

 

 

 

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In tomorrow's reading the three travelers move on to Asia Minor, into modern Turkey, where Jesus lectures, where Paul made tents, taught religion and philosophy. Section 6 is titled: AT EPHESUS--DISCOURSE ON THE SOUL

 

 

 

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Overview of 133. The Return from Rome

 

1. Mercy and Justice

2. Embarking at Tarentum

3. At Corinth

4. Personal Work in Corinth

5. At Athens — Discourse on Science

6. At Ephesus — Discourse on the Soul

7. The Sojourn at Cyprus — Discourse on Mind

8. At Antioch

9. In Mesopotamia

 

 

This group of papers [121-196] was sponsored by a commission of twelve Urantia midwayers acting under the supervision of a Melchizedek revelatory director. The basis of this narrative was supplied by a secondary midwayer who was onetime assigned to the superhuman watchcare of the Apostle Andrew.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1477 - §2 Quantity may be identified as a fact, thus becoming a scientific uniformity. Quality, being a matter of mind interpretation, represents an estimate of values, and must, therefore, remain an experience of the individual. When both science and religion become less dogmatic and more tolerant of criticism, philosophy will then begin to achieve unity in the intelligent comprehension of the universe.

P.1477 - §3 There is unity in the cosmic universe if you could only discern its workings in actuality. The real universe is friendly to every child of the eternal God. The real problem is: How can the finite mind of man achieve a logical, true, and corresponding unity of thought? This universe-knowing state of mind can be had only by conceiving that the quantitative fact and the qualitative value have a common causation in the Paradise Father. Such a conception of reality yields a broader insight into the purposeful unity of universe phenomena; it even reveals a spiritual goal of progressive personality achievement. And this is a concept of unity which can sense the unchanging background of a living universe of continually changing impersonal relations and evolving personal relationships.

 

Much quality in these quotes!
Would like to write long ... but I think the following quote says a lot, I think the apparent separation between science and religion is a "human invention" because:"Never, then, can either science or religion, in and of themselves, standing alone, hope to gain an adequate understanding of universal truths and relationships without the guidance of human philosophy and the illumination of divine revelation(1135.7)

(1135.4)103:6.2 When man approaches the study and examination of his universe from the outside, he brings into being the various physical sciences; when he approaches the research of himself and the universe from the inside, he gives origin to theology and metaphysics. The later art of philosophy develops in an effort to harmonize the many discrepancies which are destined at first to appear between the findings and teachings of these two diametrically opposite avenues of approaching the universe of things and beings.

 

(1135.5)103:6.3 Religion has to do with the spiritual viewpoint, the awareness of the insideness of human experience. Man’s spiritual nature affords him the opportunity of turning the universe outside in. It is therefore true that, viewed exclusively from the insideness of personality experience, all creation appears to be spiritual in nature.

 

(1135.6)103:6.4 When man analytically inspects the universe through the material endowments of his physical senses and associated mind perception, the cosmos appears to be mechanical and energy-material. Such a technique of studying reality consists in turning the universe inside out.

 

(1135.7)103:6.5 A logical and consistent philosophic concept of the universe cannot be built up on the postulations of either materialism or spiritism, for both of these systems of thinking, when universally applied, are compelled to view the cosmos in distortion, the former contacting with a universe turned inside out, the latter realizing the nature of a universe turned outside in. Never, then, can either science or religion, in and of themselves, standing alone, hope to gain an adequate understanding of universal truths and relationships without the guidance of human philosophy and the illumination of divine revelation.

 

 

 

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Hello Rick, all!

 

 

Much quality in these quotes!

Would like to write long ... but I think the following quote says a lot, I think the apparent separation between science and religion is a "human invention" because:"Never, then, can either science or religion, in and of themselves, standing alone, hope to gain an adequate understanding of universal truths and relationships without the guidance of human philosophy and the illumination of divine revelation(1135.7)

(1135.4)103:6.2 When man approaches the study and examination of his universe from the outside, he brings into being the various physical sciences; when he approaches the research of himself and the universe from the inside, he gives origin to theology and metaphysics. The later art of philosophy develops in an effort to harmonize the many discrepancies which are destined at first to appear between the findings and teachings of these two diametrically opposite avenues of approaching the universe of things and beings.

 

(1135.5)103:6.3 Religion has to do with the spiritual viewpoint, the awareness of the insideness of human experience. Man’s spiritual nature affords him the opportunity of turning the universe outside in. It is therefore true that, viewed exclusively from the insideness of personality experience, all creation appears to be spiritual in nature.

 

(1135.6)103:6.4 When man analytically inspects the universe through the material endowments of his physical senses and associated mind perception, the cosmos appears to be mechanical and energy-material. Such a technique of studying reality consists in turning the universe inside out.

 

(1135.7)103:6.5 A logical and consistent philosophic concept of the universe cannot be built up on the postulations of either materialism or spiritism, for both of these systems of thinking, when universally applied, are compelled to view the cosmos in distortion, the former contacting with a universe turned inside out, the latter realizing the nature of a universe turned outside in. Never, then, can either science or religion, in and of themselves, standing alone, hope to gain an adequate understanding of universal truths and relationships without the guidance of human philosophy and the illumination of divine revelation.

 

 

 

LOVE...

 

Alina

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Thanks very much Alina, where would we be without revelation?! Lost in myth, lies and metaphysics.

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PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME



6. AT EPHESUS--DISCOURSE ON THE SOUL
P.1477 - §8 On leaving Athens, the travelers went by way of Troas to Ephesus, the capital of the Roman province of Asia. They made many trips out to the famous temple of Artemis of the Ephesians, about two miles from the city. Artemis was the most famous goddess of all Asia Minor and a perpetuation of the still earlier mother goddess of ancient Anatolian times. The crude idol exhibited in the enormous temple dedicated to her worship was reputed to have fallen from heaven. Not all of Ganid's early training to respect images as symbols of divinity had been eradicated, and he thought it best to purchase a little silver shrine in honor of this fertility goddess of Asia Minor. That night they talked at great length about the worship of things made with human hands.
P.1478 - §1 On the third day of their stay they walked down by the river to observe the dredging of the harbor's mouth. At noon they talked with a young Phoenician who was homesick and much discouraged; but most of all he was envious of a certain young man who had received promotion over his head. Jesus spoke comforting words to him and quoted the olden Hebrew proverb: "A man's gift makes room for him and brings him before great men."
P.1478 - §2 Of all the large cities they visited on this tour of the Mediterranean, they here accomplished the least of value to the subsequent work of the Christian missionaries. Christianity secured its start in Ephesus largely through the efforts of Paul, who resided here more than two years, making tents for a living and conducting lectures on religion and philosophy each night in the main audience chamber of the school of Tyrannus.
P.1478 - §3 There was a progressive thinker connected with this local school of philosophy, and Jesus had several profitable sessions with him. In the course of these talks Jesus had repeatedly used the word "soul." This learned Greek finally asked him what he meant by "soul," and he replied:
P.1478 - §4 "The soul is the self-reflective, truth-discerning, and spirit-perceiving part of man which forever elevates the human being above the level of the animal world. Self-consciousness, in and of itself, is not the soul. Moral self-consciousness is true human self-realization and constitutes the foundation of the human soul, and the soul is that part of man which represents the potential survival value of human experience. Moral choice and spiritual attainment, the ability to know God and the urge to be like him, are the characteristics of the soul. The soul of man cannot exist apart from moral thinking and spiritual activity. A stagnant soul is a dying soul. But the soul of man is distinct from the divine spirit which dwells within the mind. The divine spirit arrives simultaneously with the first moral activity of the human mind, and that is the occasion of the birth of the soul.
P.1478 - §5 "The saving or losing of a soul has to do with whether or not the moral consciousness attains survival status through eternal alliance with its associated immortal spirit endowment. Salvation is the spiritualization of the self-realization of the moral consciousness, which thereby becomes possessed of survival value. All forms of soul conflict consist in the lack of harmony between the moral, or spiritual, self-consciousness and the purely intellectual self-consciousness.
P.1478 - §6 "The human soul, when matured, ennobled, and spiritualized, approaches the heavenly status in that it comes near to being an entity intervening between the material and the spiritual, the material self and the divine spirit. The evolving soul of a human being is difficult of description and more difficult of demonstration because it is not discoverable by the methods of either material investigation or spiritual proving. Material science cannot demonstrate the existence of a soul, neither can pure spirit-testing. Notwithstanding the failure of both material science and spiritual standards to discover the existence of the human soul, every morally conscious mortal knows of the existence of his soul as a real and actual personal experience."




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Greetings, Carolyn, NelsonG, Alina, Raymond, Carola, Fellow Students, Forum Friends, Members and Visitors,

Once again the trio sets sail, still heading east, to the end of their journey together:

...On leaving Athens, the travelers went by way of Troas to Ephesus.... P.1477 - 8

...In Roman times, [Troas] was a significant port for travelling between Anatolia and Europe. Paul of Tarsus sailed for Europe for the first time from Alexandria Troas and returned there from Europe...

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About Ephesus:

Ephesus was an ancient Greek city, and later a major Roman city, on the coast of Ionia, near present-day Selçuk, Izmir Province, Turkey. It was one of the twelve cities of the Ionian League during the Classical Greek era. In the Roman period, Ephesus had a population of more than 250,000 in the 1st century BC, which served to make it one of the largest cities in the Mediterranean world.

The city was famed for the Temple of Artemis (completed around 550 BC), one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World.

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About Artemis:

The Temple of Artemis (Greek: Artemision), also known less precisely as the Temple of Diana, was a Greek temple dedicated to the goddess Artemis and was one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. It was located in Ephesus (near the modern town of Selçuk in present-day Turkey), and was completely rebuilt three times before its eventual destruction in 401. Only foundations and sculptural fragments of the latest of the temples at the site remain.

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...Not all of Ganid's early training to respect images as symbols of divinity had been eradicated, and he thought it best to purchase a little silver shrine in honor of this fertility goddess of Asia Minor.... P.1477 - 8

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This quote Jesus cited:

"...A man's gift makes room for him and brings him before great men...." P.1478 - 1

...appears in the Bible's Old Testament:

Proverbs 18:16 "A man's gift maketh room for him, and bringeth him before great men."

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Compare this statement from today's reading:

...Christianity secured its start in Ephesus largely through the efforts of Paul, who resided here more than two years, making tents for a living and conducting lectures on religion and philosophy each night in the main audience chamber of the school of Tyrannus.... P.1478 - 2

...with this from the New Testament:

Acts 19: "And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus...And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God. But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus. And this continued by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks."

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The Midwayers give us three paragraphs of direct quotes from Jesus about the soul in answer to the "learned Greek". These three paragraphs give us some of the finest information there is about this potentially enduring entity we create out of the values of living. Without a soul there is no vehicle to ride into eternity. Apparently animals cannot worship or develop souls, they have not the spirit of wisdom. From Paper 36:5:

...The spirit of worship forever distinguishes the animal of its association from the soulless creatures of mind endowment. Worship is the badge of spiritual-ascension candidacy.... P.402 - 8

Recall this discussion Jesus and Ganid had about the dog's soul in Paper 130:2?

...That afternoon Jesus and Ganid had both enjoyed playing with a very intelligent shepherd dog, and Ganid wanted to know whether the dog had a soul, whether it had a will, and in response to his questions Jesus said: "The dog has a mind which can know material man, his master, but cannot know God, who is spirit; therefore the dog does not possess a spiritual nature and cannot enjoy a spiritual experience. The dog may have a will derived from nature and augmented by training, but such a power of mind is not a spiritual force, neither is it comparable to the human will, inasmuch as it is not reflective--it is not the result of discriminating higher and moral meanings or choosing spiritual and eternal values. It is the possession of such powers of spiritual discrimination and truth choosing that makes mortal man a moral being, a creature endowed with the attributes of spiritual responsibility and the potential of eternal survival." Jesus went on to explain that it is the absence of such mental powers in the animal which makes it forever impossible for the animal world to develop language in time or to experience anything equivalent to personality survival in eternity.... P.1431 - 3

Those three paragraphs in today's reading reflect many other parts of the UB. The word soul appears in over 500 paragraphs. The word souls is used in 240. Paper 111 has more than one Section on the subject:

Paper 111. The Adjuster and the Soul

2. Nature of the Soul

3. The Evolving Soul

From today's reading:

"...A stagnant soul is a dying soul...." P.1478 - 4

From a Mighty Messenger in Paper 28:6:

...The universal economy is based on intake and output; throughout the eternal career you will never encounter monotony of inaction or stagnation of personality.... P.316 - 5

From a Solitary Messenger in Paper 112:5:

...The true reality of all selfhood (personality) is able to function responsively to universe conditions by virtue of the unceasing changing of its constituent parts; stagnation terminates in inevitable death.... P.1235 - 2

From today's reading:

"...The divine spirit arrives simultaneously with the first moral activity of the human mind, and that is the occasion of the birth of the soul...." P.1478 - 4

From a Solitary Messenger in 108:2:

...Though the Adjusters volunteer for service as soon as the personality forecasts have been relayed to Divinington, they are not actually assigned until the human subjects make their first moral personality decision. The first moral choice of the human child is automatically indicated in the seventh mind-adjutant and registers instantly.... P.1186 - 8

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Salvation is another prominent theme in the UB, the word appears in over 200 paragraphs. In Paper 101:6, a Melchizedek gives us this seven point list about being "saved":

...The faith of Jesus pointed the way to finality of human salvation, to the ultimate of mortal universe attainment, since it provided for:

1. Salvation from material fetters in the personal realization of sonship with God, who is spirit.

2. Salvation from intellectual bondage: man shall know the truth, and the truth shall set him free.

3. Salvation from spiritual blindness, the human realization of the fraternity of mortal beings and the morontian awareness of the brotherhood of all universe creatures; the service-discovery of spiritual reality and the ministry-revelation of the goodness of spirit values.

4. Salvation from incompleteness of self through the attainment of the spirit levels of the universe and through the eventual realization of the harmony of Havona and the perfection of Paradise.

5. Salvation from self, deliverance from the limitations of self-consciousness through the attainment of the cosmic levels of the Supreme mind and by co-ordination with the attainments of all other self-conscious beings.

6. Salvation from time, the achievement of an eternal life of unending progression in God-recognition and God-service.

7. Salvation from the finite, the perfected oneness with Deity in and through the Supreme by which the creature attempts the transcendental discovery of the Ultimate on the postfinaliter levels of the absonite.... P.1112 - §4

What exactly do you think the Master meant by "pure spirit testing":

"...Material science cannot demonstrate the existence of a soul, neither can pure spirit-testing...." P.1478 - 6

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The only italics in today's reading appear three times in the last line:

"...every morally conscious mortal knows of the existence of his soul as a real and actual personal experience...." P.1478 - 6

I am. You are. We exist. This is known and experienced, now and in eternity, thanks Father :)

Now the threesome go from discussing the soul at Ephesus to Cyrus for a two week vacation. But illness strikes Ganid, and as he is being nursed back to health by Jesus and Gonod, he receives great lessons about thought, thinking and consciousness from the greatest mind in all Nebadon. Tomorrow's reading, Section 7, is titled: The Sojourn at Cyprus — Discourse on Mind

Thanks for reading. Members' thoughts, reflections, insights, observations, comments, corrections and questions about today's OPAD presentation are invited.

Much love, Rick/OPAD host

Overview of Paper 133: The Return from Rome

1. Mercy and Justice

2. Embarking at Tarentum

3. At Corinth

4. Personal Work in Corinth

5. At Athens — Discourse on Science

6. At Ephesus — Discourse on the Soul

7. The Sojourn at Cyprus — Discourse on Mind

8. At Antioch

9. In Mesopotamia

This group of papers [121-196] was sponsored by a commission of twelve Urantia midwayers acting under the supervision of a Melchizedek revelatory director. The basis of this narrative was supplied by a secondary midwayer who was onetime assigned to the superhuman watchcare of the Apostle Andrew.

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PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME



7. THE SOJOURN AT CYPRUS--DISCOURSE ON MIND
P.1479 - §1 Shortly the travelers set sail for Cyprus, stopping at Rhodes. They enjoyed the long water voyage and arrived at their island destination much rested in body and refreshed in spirit.
P.1479 - §2 It was their plan to enjoy a period of real rest and play on this visit to Cyprus as their tour of the Mediterranean was drawing to a close. They landed at Paphos and at once began the assembly of supplies for their sojourn of several weeks in the near-by mountains. On the third day after their arrival they started for the hills with their well-loaded pack animals.
P.1479 - §3 For two weeks the trio greatly enjoyed themselves, and then, without warning, young Ganid was suddenly taken grievously ill. For two weeks he suffered from a raging fever, oftentimes becoming delirious; both Jesus and Gonod were kept busy attending the sick boy. Jesus skillfully and tenderly cared for the lad, and the father was amazed by both the gentleness and adeptness manifested in all his ministry to the afflicted youth. They were far from human habitations, and the boy was too ill to be moved; so they prepared as best they could to nurse him back to health right there in the mountains.
P.1479 - §4 During Ganid's convalescence of three weeks Jesus told him many interesting things about nature and her various moods. And what fun they had as they wandered over the mountains, the boy asking questions, Jesus answering them, and the father marveling at the whole performance.
P.1479 - §5 The last week of their sojourn in the mountains Jesus and Ganid had a long talk on the functions of the human mind. After several hours of discussion the lad asked this question: "But, Teacher, what do you mean when you say that man experiences a higher form of self-consciousness than do the higher animals?" And as restated in modern phraseology, Jesus answered:

P.1479 - §6 My son, I have already told you much about the mind of man and the divine spirit that lives therein, but now let me emphasize that self-consciousness is a reality. When any animal becomes self-conscious, it becomes a primitive man. Such an attainment results from a co-ordination of function between impersonal energy and spirit-conceiving mind, and it is this phenomenon which warrants the bestowal of an absolute focal point for the human personality, the spirit of the Father in heaven.
P.1479 - §7 Ideas are not simply a record of sensations; ideas are sensations plus the reflective interpretations of the personal self; and the self is more than the sum of one's sensations. There begins to be something of an approach to unity in an evolving selfhood, and that unity is derived from the indwelling presence of a part of absolute unity which spiritually activates such a self-conscious animal-origin mind.
P.1479 - §8 No mere animal could possess a time self-consciousness. Animals possess a physiological co-ordination of associated sensation-recognition and memory thereof, but none experience a meaningful recognition of sensation or exhibit a purposeful association of these combined physical experiences such as is manifested in the conclusions of intelligent and reflective human interpretations. And this fact of self-conscious existence, associated with the reality of his subsequent spiritual experience, constitutes man a potential son of the universe and foreshadows his eventual attainment of the Supreme Unity of the universe.
P.1480 - §1 Neither is the human self merely the sum of the successive states of consciousness. Without the effective functioning of a consciousness sorter and associater there would not exist sufficient unity to warrant the designation of a selfhood. Such an ununified mind could hardly attain conscious levels of human status. If the associations of consciousness were just an accident, the minds of all men would then exhibit the uncontrolled and random associations of certain phases of mental madness.
P.1480 - §2 A human mind, built up solely out of the consciousness of physical sensations, could never attain spiritual levels; this kind of material mind would be utterly lacking in a sense of moral values and would be without a guiding sense of spiritual dominance which is so essential to achieving harmonious personality unity in time, and which is inseparable from personality survival in eternity.
P.1480 - §3 The human mind early begins to manifest qualities which are supermaterial; the truly reflective human intellect is not altogether bound by the limits of time. That individuals so differ in their life performances indicates, not only the varying endowments of heredity and the different influences of the environment, but also the degree of unification with the indwelling spirit of the Father which has been achieved by the self, the measure of the identification of the one with the other.
P.1480 - §4 The human mind does not well stand the conflict of double allegiance. It is a severe strain on the soul to undergo the experience of an effort to serve both good and evil. The supremely happy and efficiently unified mind is the one wholly dedicated to the doing of the will of the Father in heaven. Unresolved conflicts destroy unity and may terminate in mind disruption. But the survival character of a soul is not fostered by attempting to secure peace of mind at any price, by the surrender of noble aspirations, and by the compromise of spiritual ideals; rather is such peace attained by the stalwart assertion of the triumph of that which is true, and this victory is achieved in the overcoming of evil with the potent force of good.

P.1480 - §5 The next day they departed for Salamis, where they embarked for Antioch on the Syrian coast.




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...Shortly the travelers set sail for Cyprus, stopping at Rhodes.... P.1479 - 1





Rhodes is an island in Greece, located in the eastern Aegean Sea. It is the largest of the Dodecanese islands...It is located northeast of Crete, southeast of Athens and southwest of the Anatolian coast in Turkey.



Historically, Rhodes was famous worldwide for the Colossus of Rhodes, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. The medieval Old Town of the City of Rhodes has been declared a World Heritage Site. Today, it is one of the most popular tourist destinations in Europe.





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It's fairly easy to follow their route on this map, from Athens east to Ephesus, south to Rhodes, and back east to Cyprus.



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...They landed at Paphos.... P.1479 - 2





Paphos, also known as Pafos, is a coastal city in the southwest of Cyprus and the capital of Paphos District...




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Cyprus, is an island country in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea. Cyprus is the third largest and third most populous island in the Mediterranean...It is located east of Greece, south of Turkey, west of Syria and Lebanon, northwest of Israel...and north of Egypt.



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What kind of virus/malady did Ganid have?



...For two weeks he suffered from a raging fever, oftentimes becoming delirious; both Jesus and Gonod were kept busy attending the sick boy.... P.1479 - 3



Ganid couldn't have found more attentive healers than Jesus and his father, could he? Gonod was surely happy Jesus was there with his "gentleness and adeptness", else he might have been killed by the blind remedies of the ill-trained, clueless physicians of that time.



First they enjoyed themselves for two weeks, then Ganid's illness was two weeks in duration, his convalescence was three weeks, so they spent at least seven weeks on Cyprus, exploring, then healing, and finally just having "fun":



...And what fun they had as they wandered over the mountains, the boy asking questions, Jesus answering them, and the father marveling at the whole performance.... P.1479 - 4



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About self-consciousness, from today's reading:



...now let me emphasize that self-consciousness is a reality.... P.1479 - 6



There is much about this subject in the book. The term "self consciousness" appears in 44 paragraphs. Compare these two quotes from Paper 16:8 with the Midwayers condensation of Jesus' teachings on Cyprus:



...Creature personality is distinguished by two self-manifesting and characteristic phenomena of mortal reactive behavior: self-consciousness and associated relative free will.



Self-consciousness consists in intellectual awareness of personality actuality; it includes the ability to recognize the reality of other personalities. It indicates capacity for individualized experience in and with cosmic realities, equivalating to the attainment of identity status in the personality relationships of the universe. Self-consciousness connotes recognition of the actuality of mind ministration and the realization of relative independence of creative and determinative free will.... P.194 - 5



From 16:9:



...Human self-consciousness implies the recognition of the reality of selves other than the conscious self and further implies that such awareness is mutual; that the self is known as it knows. This is shown in a purely human manner in man's social life. But you cannot become so absolutely certain of a fellow being's reality as you can of the reality of the presence of God that lives within you.... P.195 - 10



...Man's own personality awareness, self-consciousness, is also directly dependent on this very fact of innate other-awareness, this innate ability to recognize and grasp the reality of other personality, ranging from the human to the divine.... P.196 - 3



...Self-consciousness is in essence a communal consciousness: God and man, Father and son, Creator and creature.... P.196 - 5



The words idea and ideas appear hundreds of times in the UB, but I don't recall them being defined so simply and concisely as in today's reading:



...Ideas are not simply a record of sensations; ideas are sensations plus the reflective interpretations of the personal self.... P.1479 - 7



This teachings in today's text is found elsewhere in the book:



...the truly reflective human intellect is not altogether bound by the limits of time.... P.1480 - 3



From 130:7:



...On the inhabited worlds, human personality (indwelt and oriented by the Paradise Father's spirit) is the only physically related reality which can transcend the material sequence of temporal events.... P.1439 - 2



From Paper 118:8:



...That mind which can effect a partial abridgment of time and space, by this very act proves itself possessed of the seeds of wisdom which can effectively serve in lieu of the transcended barrier of restraint.... P.1302 - 5



The rest of this extract of Ganid's and Jesus' conversation focuses much on unity of mind and spirit:



...The human mind does not well stand the conflict of double allegiance. It is a severe strain on the soul to undergo the experience of an effort to serve both good and evil.... P.1480 - 4



I think this is one of the more memorable paragraphs in The Urantia Book, one that speaks to the efficacy of the combination of unity and happiness:



...The supremely happy and efficiently unified mind is the one wholly dedicated to the doing of the will of the Father in heaven.... P.1480 - 4



Unity of mind brings peace, disunity madness. Maybe, when referring to mind, disunity is another word for insanity:



...Unresolved conflicts destroy unity and may terminate in mind disruption...rather is such peace attained by the stalwart assertion of the triumph of that which is true, and this victory is achieved in the overcoming of evil with the potent force of good.... P.1480 - 4




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Many are the references to overcoming evil with good:



"...In your lives overthrow error and overcome evil by the love of the living truth. In all your relations with men do good for evil...." (1443:3) 131:1.7



...Fatherly love delights in returning good for evil--doing good in retaliation for injustice.... (1575:9) 140:5.24



"...Do not to others those things you would not wish done to you. Pay good for evil; overcome evil with the good...." (1447:3) 131:3.6



...Jesus did not advocate the practice of negative submission to the indignities of those who might purposely seek to impose upon the practitioners of nonresistance to evil, but rather that his followers should be wise and alert in the quick and positive reaction of good to evil to the end that they might effectively overcome evil with good.... (1770:2) 159:5.10



"...Why not assert your mastery of evil by virtue of the power of goodness and thus become the master of all relations between the two of you? I predict that the good in you could overcome the evil in him if you gave it a fair and living chance...." (1430:2) 130:2.4



...Pentecost, with its spiritual endowment, was designed forever to loose the religion of the Master from all dependence upon physical force; the teachers of this new religion are now equipped with spiritual weapons. They are to go out to conquer the world with unfailing forgiveness, matchless good will, and abounding love. They are equipped to overcome evil with good, to vanquish hate by love, to destroy fear with a courageous and living faith in truth.... (2064:3) 194:3.11



"...There is mighty power in the expulsive energy of a new and sincere spiritual affection. And again I say to you, be not overcome by evil but rather overcome evil with good...." (1738:4) 156:5.5




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...The next day they departed for Salamis, where they embarked for Antioch on the Syrian coast.... P.1480 - 5



Looks like Salamis is at the other end of Cyprus from Paphos. This map also shows Cyprus' topography. It appears to be one giant mountain top rising out of the sea:



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Map showing the ten ancient city Kingdoms of Cyprus.




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Tomorrow's reading, Section 8. At Antioch --quite a short one--finds our trio in a Roman province and city first in "wickedness and immorality".




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Overview of Paper 133: The Return from Rome



1. Mercy and Justice


2. Embarking at Tarentum


3. At Corinth


4. Personal Work in Corinth


5. At Athens — Discourse on Science


6. At Ephesus — Discourse on the Soul


7. The Sojourn at Cyprus — Discourse on Mind


8. At Antioch


9. In Mesopotamia



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P.1479 - §6 My son, I have already told you much about the mind of man and the divine spirit that lives therein, but now let me emphasize that self-consciousness is a reality. When any animal becomes self-conscious, it becomes a primitive man. Such an attainment results from a co-ordination of function between impersonal energy and spirit-conceiving mind, and it is this phenomenon which warrants the bestowal of an absolute focal point for the human personality, the spirit of the Father in heaven.

 

P.1480 - §2 A human mind, built up solely out of the consciousness of physical sensations, could never attain spiritual levels; this kind of material mind would be utterly lacking in a sense of moral values and would be without a guiding sense of spiritual dominance which is so essential to achieving harmonious personality unity in time, and which is inseparable from personality survival in eternity.

 

 

I am interested in "the mind can conceive the spirit" for itsintimate relationship with the Thought Adjuster. For me there is transcends oneself (ego) to be able to "conceive is the spirit."
This transcend physical reality through the mind, and therefore gain ever higher levels of consciousness, all of which coincides with the progression of the seven psychic circles of thought.
More and more truth is obtained, persevere, and get step further, the progressive state of personality unification.The levels of thought and feeling increasingly higher are possible, even on Urantia as Jesus taught. mainly with his example.

 

 

(1216.6)111:1.5 Mortal mind is a temporary intellect system loaned to human beings for use during a material lifetime, and as they use this mind, they are either accepting or rejecting the potential of eternal existence. Mind is about all you have of universe reality that is subject to your will, and the soul — the morontia self — will faithfully portray the harvest of the temporal decisions which the mortal self is making. Human consciousness rests gently upon the electrochemical mechanism below and delicately touches the spirit-morontia energy system above. Of neither of these two systems is the human being ever completely conscious in his mortal life; therefore must he work in mind, of which he is conscious. And it is not so much what mind comprehends as what mind desires to comprehend that insures survival; it is not so much what mind is like as what mind is striving to be like that constitutes spirit identification. It is not so much that man is conscious of God as that man yearns for God that results in universe ascension. What you are today is not so important as what you are becoming day by day and in eternity.

 

(1217.1)111:1.6 Mind is the cosmic instrument on which the human will can play the discords of destruction, or upon which this same human will can bring forth the exquisite melodies of God identification and consequent eternal survival. The Adjuster bestowed upon man is, in the last analysis, impervious to evil and incapable of sin, but mortal mind can actually be twisted, distorted, and rendered evil and ugly by the sinful machinations of a perverse and self-seeking human will. Likewise can this mind be made noble, beautiful, true, and good — actually great — in accordance with the spirit-illuminated will of a God-knowing human being.

 

(1217.2)111:1.7 Evolutionary mind is only fully stable and dependable when manifesting itself upon the two extremes of cosmic intellectuality — the wholly mechanized and the entirely spiritualized. Between the intellectual extremes of pure mechanical control and true spirit nature there intervenes that enormous group of evolving and ascending minds whose stability and tranquillity are dependent upon personality choice and spirit identification.

 

 

 

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Good Day Rick! :)

 

 

 

I am interested in "the mind can conceive the spirit" for itsintimate relationship with the Thought Adjuster. For me there is transcends oneself (ego) to be able to "conceive is the spirit."

This transcend physical reality through the mind, and therefore gain ever higher levels of consciousness, all of which coincides with the progression of the seven psychic circles of thought.

More and more truth is obtained, persevere, and get step further, the progressive state of personality unification.The levels of thought and feeling increasingly higher are possible, even on Urantia as Jesus taught. mainly with his example.

 

 

 

LOVE to All!

 

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Hi Alina :wub:

 

We have a wonderful new load of information on mind, don't we! All the way to Paradise it gets better...Maybe Jesus worked in bits of these higher teachings you point to, during Ganid's healing period. Interesting isn't it how Gonod is now paying close attention to this master teacher he happened to hire to educate his son.

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PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME



8. AT ANTIOCH
P.1480 - §6 Antioch was the capital of the Roman province of Syria, and here the imperial governor had his residence. Antioch had half a million inhabitants; it was the third city of the empire in size and the first in wickedness and flagrant immorality. Gonod had considerable business to transact; so Jesus and Ganid were much by themselves. They visited everything about this polyglot city except the grove of Daphne. Gonod and Ganid visited this notorious shrine of shame, but Jesus declined to accompany them. Such scenes were not so shocking to Indians, but they were repellent to an idealistic Hebrew.
P.1480 - §7 Jesus became sober and reflective as he drew nearer Palestine and the end of their journey. He visited with few people in Antioch; he seldom went about in the city. After much questioning as to why his teacher manifested so little interest in Antioch, Ganid finally induced Jesus to say: "This city is not far from Palestine; maybe I shall come back here sometime."
P.1481 - §1 Ganid had a very interesting experience in Antioch. This young man had proved himself an apt pupil and already had begun to make practical use of some of Jesus' teachings. There was a certain Indian connected with his father's business in Antioch who had become so unpleasant and disgruntled that his dismissal had been considered. When Ganid heard this, he betook himself to his father's place of business and held a long conference with his fellow countryman. This man felt he had been put at the wrong job. Ganid told him about the Father in heaven and in many ways expanded his views of religion. But of all that Ganid said, the quotation of a Hebrew proverb did the most good, and that word of wisdom was: "Whatsoever your hand finds to do, do that with all your might."
P.1481 - §2 After preparing their luggage for the camel caravan, they passed on down to Sidon and thence over to Damascus, and after three days they made ready for the long trek across the desert sands.




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PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME



8. AT ANTIOCH
P.1480 - §6 Antioch was the capital of the Roman province of Syria, and here the imperial governor had his residence. Antioch had half a million inhabitants; it was the third city of the empire in size and the first in wickedness and flagrant immorality. Gonod had considerable business to transact; so Jesus and Ganid were much by themselves. They visited everything about this polyglot city except the grove of Daphne. Gonod and Ganid visited this notorious shrine of shame, but Jesus declined to accompany them. Such scenes were not so shocking to Indians, but they were repellent to an idealistic Hebrew.
P.1480 - §7 Jesus became sober and reflective as he drew nearer Palestine and the end of their journey. He visited with few people in Antioch; he seldom went about in the city. After much questioning as to why his teacher manifested so little interest in Antioch, Ganid finally induced Jesus to say: "This city is not far from Palestine; maybe I shall come back here sometime."
P.1481 - §1 Ganid had a very interesting experience in Antioch. This young man had proved himself an apt pupil and already had begun to make practical use of some of Jesus' teachings. There was a certain Indian connected with his father's business in Antioch who had become so unpleasant and disgruntled that his dismissal had been considered. When Ganid heard this, he betook himself to his father's place of business and held a long conference with his fellow countryman. This man felt he had been put at the wrong job. Ganid told him about the Father in heaven and in many ways expanded his views of religion. But of all that Ganid said, the quotation of a Hebrew proverb did the most good, and that word of wisdom was: "Whatsoever your hand finds to do, do that with all your might."
P.1481 - §2 After preparing their luggage for the camel caravan, they passed on down to Sidon and thence over to Damascus, and after three days they made ready for the long trek across the desert sands.




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Syria is in a sad state of civil war today, Antioch was recently dessimated, flattened by bombs and bullets. Because of its one-time location on the Silk road, many battles have been fought there in its 2500 year history.

 

...Antioch had half a million inhabitants; it was the third city of the empire in size and the first in wickedness and flagrant immorality.... P.1480 - 6

 

 

 

Antioch...was an ancient city on the eastern side of the Orontes River. Its ruins lie near the modern city of Antakya, Turkey.

 

Founded near the end of the 4th century BC by Seleucus I Nicator, one of Alexander the Great's generals, Antioch's geographic, military and economic location, particularly the spice trade, the Silk Road, the Persian Royal Road, benefited its occupants, and eventually it rivaled Alexandria as the chief city of the Near East and as the main center of Hellenistic Judaism at the end of the Second Temple period.

 

As a result of its longevity and the pivotal role it played in the emergence of both Hellenistic Judaism and Early Christianity, Antioch was called "the cradle of Christianity." It was one of the four cities of the Syrian tetrapolis. Its residents are known as Antiochenes. Once a great metropolis of half a million people, it declined to insignificance during the Middle Ages because of repeated earthquakes, the Crusaders' invasions, and a change in trade routes following the Mongol conquests, which then no longer passed through Antioch from the far east.

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...They visited everything about this polyglot city except the grove of Daphne.... P.1480 - 6

 

 

 

...6 km west and beyond the suburb Heraclea lay the paradise of Daphne, a park of woods and waters, in the midst of which rose a great temple to the Pythian Apollo, also founded by Seleucus I and enriched with a cult-statue of the god, as Musagetes, by Bryaxis. A companion sanctuary of Hecate was constructed underground by Diocletian. The beauty and the lax morals of Daphne were celebrated all over the western world; and indeed Antioch as a whole shared in both these titles to fame. Its amenities awoke both the enthusiasm and the scorn of many writers of antiquity.

 

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Antioch may have been sin city when Jesus, Ganid and Gonod passed through, but it soon became a center of emerging Christianity, perhaps because Jesus did indeed return as he indicated to Ganid. From today's reading:

 

...Ganid finally induced Jesus to say: "This city is not far from Palestine; maybe I shall come back here sometime...." P.1480 - 7

 

From Paper 134:7:

 

...At Antioch the Son of Man lived for over two months, working, observing, studying, visiting, ministering, and all the while learning how man lives, how he thinks, feels, and reacts to the environment of human existence. For three weeks of this period he worked as a tentmaker. He remained longer in Antioch than at any other place he visited on this trip. Ten years later, when the Apostle Paul was preaching in Antioch and heard his followers speak of the doctrines of the Damascus scribe, he little knew that his pupils had heard the voice, and listened to the teachings, of the Master himself.... P.1492 - 3

 

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Young bright Ganid tries on his new teacher hat!

 

....But of all that Ganid said, the quotation of a Hebrew proverb did the most good, and that word of wisdom was: "Whatsoever your hand finds to do, do that with all your might...." P.1481 - 1

 

That line of course is now found the Bible's Old Testament:

 

Ecclesiastes 9:10 "Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest."

 

 

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...After preparing their luggage for the camel caravan, they passed on down to Sidon and thence over to Damascus.... P.1481 - 2

 

On the map at the top of this post you can see Sidon in the south. On this map you see it in the north, in relation to Israel. That is Galillee and the head waters of the Jordan river just southeast of Sidon and Tyre:

 

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In tomorrow's reading, the last of Paper 133, Section 9. In Mesopotamia, the three must part. And what a tearful scene it was, Ganid and Gonod going back to the sea, Jesus watching them from the shore.

 

 

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Overview of Paper 133: The Return from Rome

 

1. Mercy and Justice

2. Embarking at Tarentum

3. At Corinth

4. Personal Work in Corinth

5. At Athens — Discourse on Science

6. At Ephesus — Discourse on the Soul

7. The Sojourn at Cyprus — Discourse on Mind

8. At Antioch

9. In Mesopotamia

 

This group of papers [121-196] was sponsored by a commission of twelve Urantia midwayers acting under the supervision of a Melchizedek revelatory director. The basis of this narrative was supplied by a secondary midwayer who was onetime assigned to the superhuman watchcare of the Apostle Andrew.

 

 

 

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Was wondering, do you think the Midwayers are saying here that he was not especially looking forward to returning to Palestine, his homeland? Was it a natural foreboding of difficult, trying times ahead, certain pain (psychic and physical) and soon to come unpleasant death? Or maybe it was that all too human feeling of returning to "normal" at the end of a wonderful vacation? From today's reading:


...Jesus became sober and reflective as he drew nearer Palestine and the end of their journey.... P.1480 - 7

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PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME



9. IN MESOPOTAMIA
P.1481 - §3 The caravan trip across the desert was not a new experience for these much-traveled men. After Ganid had watched his teacher help with the loading of their twenty camels and observed him volunteer to drive their own animal, he exclaimed, "Teacher, is there anything that you cannot do?" Jesus only smiled, saying, "The teacher surely is not without honor in the eyes of a diligent pupil." And so they set forth for the ancient city of Ur.
P.1481 - §4 Jesus was much interested in the early history of Ur, the birthplace of Abraham, and he was equally fascinated with the ruins and traditions of Susa, so much so that Gonod and Ganid extended their stay in these parts three weeks in order to afford Jesus more time to conduct his investigations and also to provide the better opportunity to persuade him to go back to India with them.
P.1481 - §5 It was at Ur that Ganid had a long talk with Jesus regarding the difference between knowledge, wisdom, and truth. And he was greatly charmed with the saying of the Hebrew wise man: "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom. With all your quest for knowledge, get understanding. Exalt wisdom and she will promote you. She will bring you to honor if you will but embrace her."

P.1481 - §6 At last the day came for the separation. They were all brave, especially the lad, but it was a trying ordeal. They were tearful of eye but courageous of heart. In bidding his teacher farewell, Ganid said: "Farewell, Teacher, but not forever. When I come again to Damascus, I will look for you. I love you, for I think the Father in heaven must be something like you; at least I know you are much like what you have told me about him. I will remember your teaching, but most of all, I will never forget you." Said the father, "Farewell to a great teacher, one who has made us better and helped us to know God." And Jesus replied, "Peace be upon you, and may the blessing of the Father in heaven ever abide with you." And Jesus stood on the shore and watched as the small boat carried them out to their anchored ship. Thus the Master left his friends from India at Charax, never to see them again in this world; nor were they, in this world, ever to know that the man who later appeared as Jesus of Nazareth was this same friend they had just taken leave of--Joshua their teacher.
P.1481 - §7 In India, Ganid grew up to become an influential man, a worthy successor of his eminent father, and he spread abroad many of the noble truths which he had learned from Jesus, his beloved teacher. Later on in life, when Ganid heard of the strange teacher in Palestine who terminated his career on a cross, though he recognized the similarity between the gospel of this Son of Man and the teachings of his Jewish tutor, it never occurred to him that these two were actually the same person.
P.1482 - §1 Thus ended that chapter in the life of the Son of Man which might be termed: The mission of Joshua the teacher.




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Greetings NelsonG, Alina, Carolyn, Raymond, Carola, Fellow Students, Forum Friends, Members and Visitors,

 

I do so enjoy reading of this man's beautiful life. He's so human at the same time divine--in everything. Obviously Ganid very much enjoyed being around him. And what a kindly response Jesus made to his prize student's admiration:

 

...Jesus only smiled, saying, "The teacher surely is not without honor in the eyes of a diligent pupil." And so they set forth for the ancient city of Ur.... P.1481 - 3

 

 

Ur is considered by many to be the city of Ur Kasdim mentioned in the Book of Genesis as the birthplace of the Hebrew patriarch Abram (Abraham; Aramaic: Oraham, Arabic: Ibrahim), traditionally believed to be sometime in the 2nd millennium BC.

 

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The ruins of Ur, with the Ziggurat of Ur visible in the background

 

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This modern map clearly shows how far they traveled across the dessert, from the Mediterranean city of Antioch to the Mesopotamian settlement at Ur:

 

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The fact that Jesus was interested in Abraham suggests he still hadn't fully tapped into his memory as Michael, doesn't it? It was he who sent Machiventa Melchizedek to Urantia 3000 years before, and it was Machiventa who taught Abraham. From Paper 93 5. The Selection of Abraham:

 

...Melchizedek did lay upon Abraham the responsibility of keeping alive the truth of one God as distinguished from the prevailing belief in plural deities.... P.1018 - 6

 

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About Susa:

 

...and he was equally fascinated with the ruins and traditions of Susa.... P.1481 - 4

 

 

Maybe his fascination came from a deep curiosity about the origin of his people:

 

In historic literature, Susa appears in the very earliest Sumerian records...

 

Susa is also mentioned in the Ketuvim of the Hebrew Bible by the name Shushan, mainly in Esther, but also once each in Nehemiah and Daniel. Both Daniel and Nehemiah lived in Susa during the Babylonian captivity of the 6th century BCE. Esther became queen there, and saved the Jews from genocide. A tomb presumed to be that of Daniel is located in the area, known as Shush-Daniel. The tomb is marked by an unusual white stone cone, which is neither regular nor symmetric. Many scholars believe it was at one point a Star of David.

 

Susa is further mentioned in the Book of Jubilees (8:21 & 9:2) as one of the places within the inheritance of Shem and his eldest son Elam; and in 8:1, "Susan" is also named as the son (or daughter, in some translations) of Elam.

 

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It looks like Susa was on the Arabian gulf, across the Tigris and Euphrates from Ur:

 

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Susa is mentioned in four UB paragraphs, twice in Paper 78:8:

 

...It was during the floodtimes that Susa so greatly prospered. The first and lower city was inundated so that the second or higher town succeeded the lower as the headquarters for the peculiar artcrafts of that day. With the later diminution of these floods, Ur became the center of the pottery industry. About seven thousand years ago Ur was on the Persian Gulf, the river deposits having since built up the land to its present limits. These settlements suffered less from the floods because of better controlling works and the widening mouths of the rivers.... P.875 - 6

 

After the breakup of this Kish confederation there ensued a long period of constant warfare between these valley cities for supremacy. And the rulership variously shifted between Sumer, Akkad, Kish, Erech, Ur, and Susa.... P.876 - 6

 

 

Three weeks researching!

 

...Gonod and Ganid extended their stay in these parts three weeks in order to afford Jesus more time to conduct his investigations.... P.1481 - 4

 

Wonder what he was searching for, and what all he discovered?

 

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...And he was greatly charmed with the saying of the Hebrew wise man: "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom. With all your quest for knowledge, get understanding. Exalt wisdom and she will promote you. She will bring you to honor if you will but embrace her...." P.1481 - 5

 

That old saying is now lodged in the Bible's Old Testament:

 

Proverbs 4:7-8 "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her."

 

It may have been Solomon who authored it:

 

The authorship of Proverbs has long been a matter of dispute. Solomon's name appears in Proverbs 1:1, "The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, King of Israel."

 

...Solomon is often mentioned as someone who has extensive wisdom in the Bible as well as in extra-biblical literature. In 1 Kings 4:32, 3000 proverbs and over 1000 songs are said to have come from Solomon and it is also said that people came from all over the ancient world to hear the wisdom of Solomon.

 

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Surely Ganid was everyday attempting to convince Jesus to return to India with them, probably Gonod too. But the Master teacher well knew Palestine was where his future lay:

 

...And Jesus stood on the shore and watched as the small boat carried them out to their anchored ship.... P.1481 - 6

 

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What a touching scene. Another excellent image for future painters, Carolyn?

 

...Thus the Master left his friends from India at Charax.... P.1481 - 6

 

 

Looks like Charax was near where the two great Mesopotamian rivers converge:

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Charax Spasinou, Antiochia in Susiana was an ancient port at the head of the Persian Gulf, and the capital of the ancient kingdom of Characene.

 

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So ends this period of his private life as a traveling tutor. In tomorrow's reading, the introduction to Paper 134, we are informed of the decisions he makes regarding the next grand phase of teaching, his wide-open public life as a homeless minister in 1st century Palestine. He chooses there to spend the remainder of his incarnation. And this choice is informed by these many years studying humanity, from Galilee to Jerusalem, from Damascus to Carthage, from Rome to Mesopotamia. Of course he was ever guided and primarily assisted by our Father's will.

 

 

Thanks for reading. Members' thoughts, reflections, insights, observations, comments, corrections and questions about today's OPAD presentation are invited.

 

Much love, Rick/OPAD host

 

 

 

Overview of Paper 133: The Return from Rome

1. Mercy and Justice

2. Embarking at Tarentum

3. At Corinth

4. Personal Work in Corinth

5. At Athens — Discourse on Science

6. At Ephesus — Discourse on the Soul

7. The Sojourn at Cyprus — Discourse on Mind

8. At Antioch

9. In Mesopotamia

This group of papers [121-196] was sponsored by a commission of twelve Urantia midwayers acting under the supervision of a Melchizedek revelatory director. The basis of this narrative was supplied by a secondary midwayer who was onetime assigned to the superhuman watchcare of the Apostle Andrew.

 

 

 

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