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PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME

 

 

[introduction]

 

 

P.1468 - §1 When preparing to leave Rome, Jesus said good-bye to none of his friends. The scribe of Damascus appeared in Rome without announcement and disappeared in like manner. It was a full year before those who knew and loved him gave up hope of seeing him again. Before the end of the second year small groups of those who had known him found themselves drawn together by their common interest in his teachings and through mutual memory of their good times with him. And these small groups of Stoics, Cynics, and mystery cultists continued to hold these irregular and informal meetings right up to the time of the appearance in Rome of the first preachers of the Christian religion.

 

 

P.1468 - §2 Gonod and Ganid had purchased so many things in Alexandria and Rome that they sent all their belongings on ahead by pack train to Tarentum, while the three travelers walked leisurely across Italy over the great Appian Way. On this journey they encountered all sorts of human beings. Many noble Roman citizens and Greek colonists lived along this road, but already the progeny of great numbers of inferior slaves were beginning to make their appearance.

 

P.1468 - §3 One day while resting at lunch, about halfway to Tarentum, Ganid asked Jesus a direct question as to what he thought of India's caste system. Said Jesus: "Though human beings differ in many ways, the one from another, before God and in the spiritual world all mortals stand on an equal footing. There are only two groups of mortals in the eyes of God: those who desire to do his will and those who do not. As the universe looks upon an inhabited world, it likewise discerns two great classes: those who know God and those who do not. Those who cannot know God are reckoned among the animals of any given realm. Mankind can appropriately be divided into many classes in accordance with differing qualifications, as they may be viewed physically, mentally, socially, vocationally, or morally, but as these different classes of mortals appear before the judgment bar of God, they stand on an equal footing; God is truly no respecter of persons. Although you cannot escape the recognition of differential human abilities and endowments in matters intellectual, social, and moral, you should make no such distinctions in the spiritual brotherhood of men when assembled for worship in the presence of God."

 

 

 

 

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Greetings Carolyn, Alina, NelsonG, Raymond, Carola, Fellow Students, Forum Friends, Members and Visitors,

 

Welcome to the OPAD study of Paper 133, a relatively long one, 14 pages. This Paper tells the last stories of Jesus' life as a private teacher, as Ganid's tutor and companion traveling the Mediterranean. It begins with their departure from Rome. Can we imagine the disappointment and loneliness of those whose hearts and minds he had so deeply touched while in Italy, those who longed to see him again?

 

At least some of them found one another:

...It was a full year before those who knew and loved him gave up hope of seeing him again. Before the end of the second year small groups of those who had known him found themselves drawn together by their common interest in his teachings and through mutual memory of their good times with him....
P.1468 - 1

 

They left Rome heading for Tarentum in Italy's heel, their point of departure for Corinth, Greece. Apparently they were in no hurry:

...the three travelers walked leisurely across Italy over the great Appian Way....
P.1468 - 2

 

800px-Via_Appia_map.jpg

The path of the Via Appia and of the Via Appia Traiana.

 

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Here, in today's reading, the Midwayers allude to one of the reasons Rome fell:

...Many noble Roman citizens and Greek colonists lived along this road, but already
the progeny of great numbers of inferior slaves were beginning to make their appearance
....
P.1468 - 2

 

From Paper 121:3:

...The slaves
. Half the population of the Roman state were slaves; many were superior individuals and quickly made their way up among the free proletariat and even among the tradesmen. The majority were either mediocre or very inferior....
P.1335 - 5

 

Multiplication of "inferior" slaves wasn't the only reason for Roman rule's end. From 195:3:

 

...Even a good religion could not save a great empire from the sure results of lack of individual participation in the affairs of government, from overmuch paternalism, overtaxation and gross collection abuses, unbalanced trade with the Levant which drained away the gold, amusement madness, Roman standardization, the degradation of woman,
slavery and race decadence
, physical plagues, and a state church which became institutionalized nearly to the point of spiritual barrenness....
P.2074 - 4

 

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About India's caste system, it still exists, but is slowly evolving by law and by practice:

 

...The caste system is connected to the Hindu concept of the four varnas, which order and rank humanity by innate spiritual purity. The highest varna is the Brahmins, or priests. Next comes the Kshatriyas, the warriors, and then the Vaishyas, the merchants. The lowest varna is the Shudras, consisting of labourers, artisans and servants who do work that is ritually unclean.

 

...Generally, however, Brahmins are the highest caste, and at the bottom of society are those associated with occupations considered extremely unclean, such as handling garbage, excrement, or corpses. In the past these castes were called untouchables, because their touch polluted. They were often forbidden from entering temples, living inside the village, drinking from wells used by high castes, or even letting their shadows fall on a Brahmin.

 

As India approached independence from British rule in the early 20th century, the caste system was increasingly criticized as a discriminatory and unjust system of social stratification, especially in regard to the impoverished untouchables. Two great figures of independence, B. R. Ambedkar and Mahatma Gandhi, led major reform movements, although they proposed radically different solutions. The current Indian constitution bans discrimination on the basis of caste and use of the term "untouchable", and the Indian government has instituted affirmative action programs for those who have become known as the Dalits, or "crushed peoples". Individual Dalits have achieved great political and financial success, but as a group they still complain of sometimes violent discrimination. The growth of information-age India has reduced the economic importance of the caste system, but its social and religious aspects remain a significant and sometimes divisive part of Indian life.

 

 

Source/more

 

 

In today's reading Jesus uses the term "equal footing" before God twice when explaining the true cosmic status of individuals and groups to Ganid:

...As the universe looks upon an inhabited world, it likewise discerns two great classes: those who know God and those who do not.... P.1468 - 3

 

 

This phrase:

...
God is truly no respecter of persons.... P.1468 - 3

 

...is repeated many times in the UB, here are three:

...God is no respecter of persons, either spiritual or material....
P.27 - 1
(1:4)

 

...He is no respecter of persons, planets, systems, or universes....
P.46 - 4
(3:1)

 

...God thus loves every individual; he is no respecter of persons, and the universality of his love brings into being a relationship of the whole, the universal brotherhood....
P.138 - 3
(12:7)

 

...and three from the Bible:

 

Acts 10:34 "Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons."

 

Romans 2:11 "For there is no respect of persons with God."

 

Sirach 35:12 "...for the Lord is judge, and with him is no respect of persons."

 

 

 

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Overview of
133.
The Return from Rome

This group of papers [121-196] was sponsored by a commission of twelve Urantia midwayers acting under the supervision of a Melchizedek revelatory director. The basis of this narrative was supplied by a secondary midwayer who was onetime assigned to the superhuman watchcare of the Apostle Andrew.

 

 

Synopsis of Paper 133:

 

Jesus, Ganid, and Gonod walked across Italy on the great Appian Way. During a discussion about India's caste system, Jesus said, "There are only two groups of mortals in the eyes of God: those who desire to do his will and those who do not."

The trio saw a child being attacked by a bully. Jesus assisted the child by restraining the bully until the boy made his escape. As soon as Jesus released the offender, Ganid began to beat him. Jesus promptly restrained Ganid. Ganid couldn't understand why Jesus didn't let him punish the bully. Jesus explained, "Mercy ministry is always the work of the individual, but justice punishment is the function of the social, governmental, or universe administrative groups." Jesus said that mercy may be lavish, but justice must be precise. They talked about this subject for days.

In Corinth, Jesus and Ganid were approached by two prostitutes. Ganid, assuming that Jesus would be offended, shooed them away rudely. Jesus' response astonished both Ganid and the women: "You mean well, but you should not presume thus to speak to the children of God, even though they chance to be his erring children. Who are we to sit in judgment on these women?" Jesus eventually led the women to the house of his friend Justus, a local merchant. There the women were presented to the merchant's wife, Martha, for nourishment and counsel. Martha did everything for the strangers that Jesus had hoped. The elder woman soon died, but the younger went to work for Justus, eventually joining the first Christian church in Corinth.

Jesus had many other interesting conversations with people in Corinth. He tailored his saving message to each person-the Mithraic leader, an Epicurean, a builder, a Chinese merchant, a British traveler, a condemned criminal. To a miller, he described how to grind truth in the mill of living experience to make it suitable for other people's capacity of receptivity. Jesus advised the mistress of an inn to minister her hospitality as one who entertains the children of the Most High. He told a runaway that there are two things people cannot run away from-God and themselves.

After two months, the party sailed to Athens, where Ganid and Gonod enjoyed a discussion Jesus carried on with a Greek philosopher. Jesus discussed the limits of logic and mathematics as they apply to life. Jesus said that a group of human beings working in harmony creates a force far greater than the sum of the personalities involved. He said that there is unity in the universe, and that the universe is friendly to every child of God.

Later in Cyprus, Ganid asked Jesus to explain how people experience a higher form of self-conscious than animals. Jesus emphasized that self-consciousness is a reality. The attainment of self-consciousness warrants the bestowal of the spirit of the Father in heaven, which is the absolute focal point for the human personality. Humans differ not only in heredity and environmental influences, but also in the degree of unification with the indwelling spirit of God. Unification of mind depends on being wholly dedicated to doing the will of the Father in heaven.

The travelers made their way to Salamis, Antioch, and the ancient city of Ur. In Ur Jesus left his Indian friends, never to see them again in the flesh. Later in life, Ganid heard of the so-called Son of Man who lost his life on a cross in Palestine, but he never knew that this was his beloved tutor.

 

Source

 

 

Tomorrow's reading pivots on Jesus' response to a bully's attack on a boy, as they approached Tarentum, and the ensuing discussion of the event with Ganid. Section 1 is titled: MERCY AND JUSTICE

 

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Dear Rick,

 

"...Even a good religion could not save a great empire from the sure results of lack of individual participation in the affairs of government, from overmuch paternalism, overtaxation and gross collection abuses, unbalanced trade with the Levant which drained away the gold, amusement madness, Roman standardization, the degradation of woman, slavery and race decadence, physical plagues, and a state church which became institutionalized nearly to the point of spiritual barrenness.... P.2074 - 4"

 

 

I could be reading a sorry newspaper, watching same kind of news, or listening to U.S.A. excuses for news and this quote would be their mantra...many mortals involved in doing nothing...collecting the check.. or playing...and even "a state church" of atheists/materialists is emerging? IMO Rather negative for a another "good day" on Urantia??? :wacko: ...putting head in sand has never been my strong suit... :rolleyes:

 

 

With love, :wub:

 

Carolyn

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Dear Rick,

 

"...Even a good religion could not save a great empire from the sure results of lack of individual participation in the affairs of government, from overmuch paternalism, overtaxation and gross collection abuses, unbalanced trade with the Levant which drained away the gold, amusement madness, Roman standardization, the degradation of woman, slavery and race decadence, physical plagues, and a state church which became institutionalized nearly to the point of spiritual barrenness.... P.2074 - 4"

 

 

I could be reading a sorry newspaper, watching same kind of news, or listening to U.S.A. excuses for news and this quote would be their mantra...many mortals involved in doing nothing...collecting the check.. or playing...and even "a state church" of atheists/materialists is emerging? IMO Rather negative for a another "good day" on Urantia??? :wacko: ...putting head in sand has never been my strong suit... :rolleyes:

 

 

With love, :wub:

 

Carolyn

 

It's chillingly resonate, isn't it! Sure don't envy the Most Highs their task of righting Urantia, but don't doubt it either.

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Said Jesus: "Though human beings differ in many ways, the one from another, before God and in the spiritual world all mortals stand on an equal footing. There are only two groups of mortals in the eyes of God: those who desire to do his will and those who do not. As the universe looks upon an inhabited world, it likewise discerns two great classes: those who know God and those who do not. Those who cannot know God are reckoned among the animals of any given realm. Mankind can appropriately be divided into many classes in accordance with differing qualifications, as they may be viewed physically, mentally, socially, vocationally, or morally, but as these different classes of mortals appear before the judgment bar of God, they stand on an equal footing; God is truly no respecter of persons. Although you cannot escape the recognition of differential human abilities and endowments in matters intellectual, social, and moral, you should make no such distinctions in the spiritual brotherhood of men when assembled for worship in the presence of God."

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I believe that this is what the founders of America meant when they said that all men are created equal.

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Said Jesus: "Though human beings differ in many ways, the one from another, before God and in the spiritual world all mortals stand on an equal footing. There are only two groups of mortals in the eyes of God: those who desire to do his will and those who do not. As the universe looks upon an inhabited world, it likewise discerns two great classes: those who know God and those who do not. Those who cannot know God are reckoned among the animals of any given realm. Mankind can appropriately be divided into many classes in accordance with differing qualifications, as they may be viewed physically, mentally, socially, vocationally, or morally, but as these different classes of mortals appear before the judgment bar of God, they stand on an equal footing; God is truly no respecter of persons. Although you cannot escape the recognition of differential human abilities and endowments in matters intellectual, social, and moral, you should make no such distinctions in the spiritual brotherhood of men when assembled for worship in the presence of God."

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

I believe that this is what the founders of America meant when they said that all men are created equal.

 

Agree.

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Welcome to The OPAD Online Study Session

 

 

Today's Presentation:

 

 

PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME

 

 

1. MERCY AND JUSTICE

 

 

P.1468 - A very interesting incident occurred one afternoon by the roadside as they neared Tarentum. They observed a rough and bullying youth brutally attacking a smaller lad. Jesus hastened to the assistance of the assaulted youth, and when he had rescued him, he tightly held on to the offender until the smaller lad had made his escape. The moment Jesus released the little bully, Ganid pounced upon the boy and began soundly to thrash him, and to Ganid's astonishment Jesus promptly interfered. After he had restrained Ganid and permitted the frightened boy to escape, the young man, as soon as he got his breath, excitedly exclaimed: "I cannot understand you, Teacher. If mercy requires that you rescue the smaller lad, does not justice demand the punishment of the larger and offending youth?" In answering, Jesus said:

 

P.1469 - 1 "Ganid, it is true, you do not understand. Mercy ministry is always the work of the individual, but justice punishment is the function of the social, governmental, or universe administrative groups. As an individual I am beholden to show mercy; I must go to the rescue of the assaulted lad, and in all consistency I may employ sufficient force to restrain the aggressor. And that is just what I did. I achieved the deliverance of the assaulted lad; that was the end of mercy ministry. Then I forcibly detained the aggressor a sufficient length of time to enable the weaker party to the dispute to make his escape, after which I withdrew from the affair. I did not proceed to sit in judgment on the aggressor, thus to pass upon his motive--to adjudicate all that entered into his attack upon his fellow--and then undertake to execute the punishment which my mind might dictate as just recompense for his wrongdoing. Ganid, mercy may be lavish, but justice is precise. Cannot you discern that no two persons are likely to agree as to the punishment which would satisfy the demands of justice? One would impose forty lashes, another twenty, while still another would advise solitary confinement as a just punishment. Can you not see that on this world such responsibilities had better rest upon the group or be administered by chosen representatives of the group? In the universe, judgment is vested in those who fully know the antecedents of all wrongdoing as well as its motivation. In civilized society and in an organized universe the administration of justice presupposes the passing of just sentence consequent upon fair judgment, and such prerogatives are vested in the juridical groups of the worlds and in the all-knowing administrators of the higher universes of all creation."

 

P.1469 - 2 For days they talked about this problem of manifesting mercy and administering justice. And Ganid, at least to some extent, understood why Jesus would not engage in personal combat. But Ganid asked one last question, to which he never received a fully satisfactory answer; and that question was: "But, Teacher, if a stronger and ill-tempered creature should attack you and threaten to destroy you, what would you do? Would you make no effort to defend yourself?" Although Jesus could not fully and satisfactorily answer the lad's question, inasmuch as he was not willing to disclose to him that he (Jesus) was living on earth as the exemplification of the Paradise Father's love to an onlooking universe, he did say this much:

 

 

P.1469 - 3 "Ganid, I can well understand how some of these problems perplex you, and I will endeavor to answer your question. First, in all attacks which might be made upon my person, I would determine whether or not the aggressor was a son of God--my brother in the flesh--and if I thought such a creature did not possess moral judgment and spiritual reason, I would unhesitatingly defend myself to the full capacity of my powers of resistance, regardless of consequences to the attacker. But I would not thus assault a fellow man of sonship status, even in self-defense. That is, I would not punish him in advance and without judgment for his assault upon me. I would by every possible artifice seek to prevent and dissuade him from making such an attack and to mitigate it in case of my failure to abort it. Ganid, I have absolute confidence in my heavenly Father's overcare; I am consecrated to doing the will of my Father in heaven. I do not believe that real harm can befall me; I do not believe that my lifework can really be jeopardized by anything my enemies might wish to visit upon me, and surely we have no violence to fear from our friends. I am absolutely assured that the entire universe is friendly to me--this all-powerful truth I insist on believing with a wholehearted trust in spite of all appearances to the contrary."

 

P.1470 - 1 But Ganid was not fully satisfied. Many times they talked over these matters, and Jesus told him some of his boyhood experiences and also about Jacob the stone mason's son. On learning how Jacob appointed himself to defend Jesus, Ganid said: "Oh, I begin to see! In the first place very seldom would any normal human being want to attack such a kindly person as you, and even if any one should be so unthinking as to do such a thing, there is pretty sure to be near at hand some other mortal who will fly to your assistance, even as you always go to the rescue of any person you observe to be in distress. In my heart, Teacher, I agree with you, but in my head I still think that if I had been Jacob, I would have enjoyed punishing those rude fellows who presumed to attack you just because they thought you would not defend yourself. I presume you are fairly safe in your journey through life since you spend much of your time helping others and ministering to your fellows in distress--well, most likely there'll always be someone on hand to defend you." And Jesus replied: "That test has not yet come, Ganid, and when it does, we will have to abide by the Father's will." And that was about all the lad could get his teacher to say on this difficult subject of self-defense and nonresistance. On another occasion he did draw from Jesus the opinion that organized society had every right to employ force in the execution of its just mandates.

 

 

 

 

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Good Day NelsonG, Carolyn, Alina, Raymond, Carola, Fellow Students, Forum Friends, Members and Guests :D

 

Today's reading depicts another of those episodes that will make great paintings and vignettes. And it reflects a longer thread in the UB about the use of force for defense, and the use of non-violence as a tool for enlightenment.

...The moment Jesus released the little bully, Ganid pounced upon the boy and began soundly to thrash him, and to Ganid's astonishment Jesus promptly interfered....
P.1468 - 4

 

 

In Paper 159:5, the Midwayers say this about Jesus' non-violent approach to problem solving:

...
Jesus did not advocate the practice of negative submission to the indignities of those who might purposely seek to impose upon the practitioners of nonresistance to evil, but rather that his followers should be wise and alert in the quick and positive reaction of good to evil to the end that they might effectively overcome evil with good....
(1770:2) 159:5.10

 

 

Over and over we read that mercy and justice are administered differently. In today's reading the Master teacher is quoted:

"...Mercy ministry is always the work of the individual, but justice punishment is the function of the social, governmental, or universe administrative groups...."
P.1469 - 1

 

From a Melchizedek in Paper 70:10:

...Justice was thus first meted out by the family, then by the clan, and later on by the tribe. The administration of true justice dates from the taking of revenge from private and kin groups and lodging it in the hands of the social group, the state....
P.796 - 3

 

From 104:2, and with italics, the Melchizedek author says this:

...The Master, when on earth, admonished his followers that justice is never a
personal
act; it is always a
group
function. Neither do the Gods, as persons, administer justice. But they perform this very function as a collective whole, as the Paradise Trinity....
P.1146 - 1

 

From the Midwayers in Paper 159:1, and with more italics:

...Thus did Jesus teach the dangers and illustrate the unfairness of sitting in personal judgment upon one's fellows. Discipline must be maintained, justice must be administered, but in all these matters the wisdom of the brotherhood should prevail.
Jesus invested legislative and judicial authority in the
group
, not in the
individual
.
Even this investment of authority in the group must not be exercised as personal authority. There is always danger that the verdict of an individual may be warped by prejudice or distorted by passion. Group judgment is more likely to remove the dangers and eliminate the unfairness of personal bias. Jesus sought always to minimize the elements of unfairness, retaliation, and vengeance....
P.1764 - 1

 

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One of the most difficult of Jesus' teachings for me is this one:

"...in all attacks which might be made upon my person, I would determine whether or not the aggressor was a son of God...."
P.1469 - 3

 

How does one determine this on the spot? I can understand how Jesus, an ancient divine being incarnate, can see into their hearts and minds, but how can I, a mere new born and flawed person know in the moment whether or not this is a brother??

 

Whatever the case in such minor matters, the authors are unequivocal about defense against mindless, spiritless, animal aggression. From a Melchizedek in Paper 71:4:

...Idealism can never survive on an evolving planet if the idealists in each generation permit themselves to be exterminated by the baser orders of humanity....
P.804 - 17

 

Jesus expressed the same precepts in today's reading:

"...if I thought such a creature did not possess moral judgment and spiritual reason, I would unhesitatingly defend myself to the full capacity of my powers of resistance, regardless of consequences to the attacker...."
P.1469 - 3

 

 

Ganid couldn't have known a time would come when no one dared to defend Jesus. From today's reading:

"...most likely there'll always be someone on hand to defend you...."
P.1470 - 1

 

But Jesus was already foreseeing such a time, a time when one when no one would stand up for him:

...And Jesus replied: "That test has not yet come, Ganid, and when it does, we will have to abide by the Father's will...." P.1470 - 1

 

 

The Midwayers close today's reading with a teaching on the spiritual application of mercy and justice saying:

...On another occasion he did draw from Jesus the opinion that organized society had every right to employ force in the execution of its just mandates.... P.1470 - 1

 

Compare the statement above with these two, the first one from a Melchizedek and then a paraphrase from Jesus:

...an ideal society cannot be realized when either the weak or the wicked lie in wait to take unfair and unholy advantage of those who are chiefly actuated by devotion to the service of truth, beauty, and goodness....
(804:16) 71:4.16

 

...Let controversy come only when they who despise the truth force it upon you. But when the willful unbeliever attacks you, do not hesitate to stand in vigorous defense of the truth which has saved and sanctified you....
(1932:1) 178:1.16

 

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Tomorrow's reading records the details of their pre- and post-departure from Italy. But its substance concerns another episode of violence--this time wife-beating and man's presumed authority over woman--and a bit about Ganid's attempt at ministry to one of the ship's crew, as they sail for Nicopolis. Section 2 is titled: EMBARKING AT TARENTUM

 

 

Thanks for reading. Members' thoughts, reflections, insights, observations, comments, corrections and questions about today's OPAD presentation are invited. Join the Forum

 

Much love, Rick/OPAD host

 

 

Overview of
133.
The Return from Rome

This group of papers [121-196] was sponsored by a commission of twelve Urantia midwayers acting under the supervision of a Melchizedek revelatory director. The basis of this narrative was supplied by a secondary midwayer who was onetime assigned to the superhuman watchcare of the Apostle Andrew.

 

 

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Good Day! :)

 

 

 

 

...Thus did Jesus teach the dangers and illustrate the unfairness of sitting in personal judgment upon one's fellows. Discipline must be maintained, justice must be administered, but in all these matters the wisdom of the brotherhood should prevail. Jesus invested legislative and judicial authority in the group, not in the individual. Even this investment of authority in the group must not be exercised as personal authority. There is always danger that the verdict of an individual may be warped by prejudice or distorted by passion. Group judgment is more likely to remove the dangers and eliminate the unfairness of personal bias. Jesus sought always to minimize the elements of unfairness, retaliation, and vengeance.... P.1764 - 1

 

Vengeance not good.

What teaching! be nice the day the brotherhood is revealed in all its splendor.
We will be more unaccompanied.
We are learning ... but I wonder if we're not in the time to put in practice the teachings of Jesus.
Jesus taught that when disputes. between brothers, we must call two or three friends in common, to offer testimony, it is very wise! but true friendship must be free of speculation ...

 

(1762.5)159:1.3 “The Father in heaven loves his children, and therefore should you learn to love one another; the Father in heaven forgives you your sins; therefore should you learn to forgive one another. If your brother sins against you, go to him and with tact and patience show him his fault. And do all this between you and him alone. If he will listen to you, then have you won your brother. But if your brother will not hear you, if he persists in the error of his way, go again to him, taking with you one or two mutual friends that you may thus have two or even three witnesses to confirm your testimony and establish the fact that you have dealt justly and mercifully with your offending brother. Now if he refuses to hear your brethren, you may tell the whole story to the congregation, and then, if he refuses to hear the brotherhood, let them take such action as they deem wise; let such an unruly member become an outcast from the kingdom. While you cannot pretend to sit in judgment on the souls of your fellows, and while you may not forgive sins or otherwise presume to usurp the prerogatives of the supervisors of the heavenly hosts, at the same time, it has been committed to your hands that you should maintain temporal order in the kingdom on earth. While you may not meddle with the divine decrees concerning eternal life, you shall determine the issues of conduct as they concern the temporal welfare of the brotherhood on earth. And so, in all these matters connected with the discipline of the brotherhood, whatsoever you shall decree on earth, shall be recognized in heaven. Although you cannot determine the eternal fate of the individual, you may legislate regarding the conduct of the group, for, where two or three of you agree concerning any of these things and ask of me, it shall be done for you if your petition is not inconsistent with the will of my Father in heaven. And all this is ever true, for, where two or three believers are gathered together, there am I in the midst of them.”

 

Also there are false witnesses:

(1982.9) 184:3.8 Although the high priest shouted at Jesus, “Do you not answer any of these charges?” Jesus opened not his mouth.He stood there in silence while all of these false witnesses gave their testimony. Hatred, fanaticism, and unscrupulous exaggeration so characterized the words of these perjurers that their testimony fell in its own entanglements. The very bestrefutation of their false accusations was the Master’s calm and majestic silence.


Another Magisterial teaching of Jesus: Silence.
The silence forced by circumstances and people, is a sign of wisdom as demonstrated by Jesus.
Very good lessons to experience in the life. :)

 

 

Much Love.

 

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Hello Rick!

Good Day! :)

 

 

 

 

...Thus did Jesus teach the dangers and illustrate the unfairness of sitting in personal judgment upon one's fellows. Discipline must be maintained, justice must be administered, but in all these matters the wisdom of the brotherhood should prevail. Jesus invested legislative and judicial authority in the group, not in the individual. Even this investment of authority in the group must not be exercised as personal authority. There is always danger that the verdict of an individual may be warped by prejudice or distorted by passion. Group judgment is more likely to remove the dangers and eliminate the unfairness of personal bias. Jesus sought always to minimize the elements of unfairness, retaliation, and vengeance.... P.1764 - 1

 

Vengeance not good.

 

What teaching! be nice the day the brotherhood is revealed in all its splendor.

We will be more unaccompanied.

We are learning ... but I wonder if we're not in the time to put in practice the teachings of Jesus.

Jesus taught that when disputes. between brothers, we must call two or three friends in common, to offer testimony, it is very wise! but true friendship must be free of speculation ...

 

(1762.5)159:1.3 “The Father in heaven loves his children, and therefore should you learn to love one another; the Father in heaven forgives you your sins; therefore should you learn to forgive one another. If your brother sins against you, go to him and with tact and patience show him his fault. And do all this between you and him alone. If he will listen to you, then have you won your brother. But if your brother will not hear you, if he persists in the error of his way, go again to him, taking with you one or two mutual friends that you may thus have two or even three witnesses to confirm your testimony and establish the fact that you have dealt justly and mercifully with your offending brother. Now if he refuses to hear your brethren, you may tell the whole story to the congregation, and then, if he refuses to hear the brotherhood, let them take such action as they deem wise; let such an unruly member become an outcast from the kingdom. While you cannot pretend to sit in judgment on the souls of your fellows, and while you may not forgive sins or otherwise presume to usurp the prerogatives of the supervisors of the heavenly hosts, at the same time, it has been committed to your hands that you should maintain temporal order in the kingdom on earth. While you may not meddle with the divine decrees concerning eternal life, you shall determine the issues of conduct as they concern the temporal welfare of the brotherhood on earth. And so, in all these matters connected with the discipline of the brotherhood, whatsoever you shall decree on earth, shall be recognized in heaven. Although you cannot determine the eternal fate of the individual, you may legislate regarding the conduct of the group, for, where two or three of you agree concerning any of these things and ask of me, it shall be done for you if your petition is not inconsistent with the will of my Father in heaven. And all this is ever true, for, where two or three believers are gathered together, there am I in the midst of them.”

 

Also there are false witnesses:

 

(1982.9) 184:3.8 Although the high priest shouted at Jesus, “Do you not answer any of these charges?” Jesus opened not his mouth.He stood there in silence while all of these false witnesses gave their testimony. Hatred, fanaticism, and unscrupulous exaggeration so characterized the words of these perjurers that their testimony fell in its own entanglements. The very bestrefutation of their false accusations was the Master’s calm and majestic silence.

 

 

Another Magisterial teaching of Jesus: Silence.

The silence forced by circumstances and people, is a sign of wisdom as demonstrated by Jesus.

Very good lessons to experience in the life. :)

 

 

Much Love.

 

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Great and appropriate additions Alina,

 

Glad you remembered about Jesus' procedure for settling disputes between sibling believers.

 

And that sometimes a majestic silence is the 'best', and maybe the only way.

 

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Rick said: "And that sometimes a majestic silence is the 'best', and maybe the only way" :)

 

 

 

YES!

Yes, it is learning the hard way ... :D

Thank You Rick!

 

 

 

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Can you not see that on this world such responsibilities had better rest upon the group or be administered by chosen representatives of the group? In the universe, judgment is vested in those who fully know the antecedents of all wrongdoing as well as its motivation. In civilized society and in an organized universe the administration of justice presupposes the passing of just sentence consequent upon fair judgment, and such prerogatives are vested in the juridical groups of the worlds and in the all-knowing administrators of the higher universes of all creation."

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More than one time Jesus talked about the universe and other worlds.

Ganid did not appear to respond to this one way or another , nor do I recall others being just a bit curious.

Ganid was having enough difficulties getting an understanding of mercy and justice I suppose.

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Can you not see that on this world such responsibilities had better rest upon the group or be administered by chosen representatives of the group? In the universe, judgment is vested in those who fully know the antecedents of all wrongdoing as well as its motivation. In civilized society and in an organized universe the administration of justice presupposes the passing of just sentence consequent upon fair judgment, and such prerogatives are vested in the juridical groups of the worlds and in the all-knowing administrators of the higher universes of all creation."

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More than one time Jesus talked about the universe and other worlds.

Ganid did not appear to respond to this one way or another , nor do I recall others being just a bit curious.

Ganid was having enough difficulties getting an understanding of mercy and justice I suppose.

 

 

 

Hmm...interesting point. Surely they spent time under the stars...It's hard to know how people of that day conceptualized the cosmos. Was it sort of taken for granted as an unsolvable mystery or did they think they already knew what the moon and stars signify? Could they conceive of distance and proportions enough to receive enlightened instruction?

 

They did include scripture in Ganid's essay on world religions at Alexandria's library. From Paper 131, Hindu and Shinto text:

 

 

"...God has made the sun and the stars.... P.1448 - 1

"...I am the maker of heaven and earth; the sun and the moon and all the stars obey my will....' P.1451 - 2

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Hmm...interesting point. Surely they spent time under the stars...It's hard to know how people of that day conceptualized the cosmos. Was it sort of taken for granted as an unsolvable mystery or did they think they already knew what the moon and stars signify? Could they conceive of distance and proportions enough to receive enlightened instruction?

 

They did include scripture in Ganid's essay on world religions at Alexandria's library. From Paper 131, Hindu and Shinto text:

 

 

"...God has made the sun and the stars.... P.1448 - 1

"...I am the maker of heaven and earth; the sun and the moon and all the stars obey my will....' P.1451 - 2

 

 

Thank you for the references.

Certainly people of that time had asked the fundamental questions: who am I, where do I come from, where am I going - and may have imagined that they may not be alone in the universe - but Jesus put forward simple concepts that made the idea all more approachable, possible and compelling. I am certain that Ganid and others would reflect on this later in their lives.

And the idea that justice and mercy do not originate on our small world. Much food for thought.

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Welcome to The OPAD Online Study Session
Today's Presentation:
PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME
2. EMBARKING AT TARENTUM
P.1470 - §2 While tarrying at the ship landing, waiting for the boat to unload cargo, the travelers observed a man mistreating his wife. As was his custom, Jesus intervened in behalf of the person subjected to attack. He stepped up behind the irate husband and, tapping him gently on the shoulder, said: "My friend, may I speak with you in private for a moment?" The angry man was nonplused by such an approach and, after a moment of embarrassing hesitation, stammered out--"er--why--yes, what do you want with me?" When Jesus had led him to one side, he said: "My friend, I perceive that something terrible must have happened to you; I very much desire that you tell me what could happen to such a strong man to lead him to attack his wife, the mother of his children, and that right out here before all eyes. I am sure you must feel that you have some good reason for this assault. What did the woman do to deserve such treatment from her husband? As I look upon you, I think I discern in your face the love of justice if not the desire to show mercy. I venture to say that, if you found me out by the wayside, attacked by robbers, you would unhesitatingly rush to my rescue. I dare say you have done many such brave things in the course of your life. Now, my friend, tell me what is the matter? Did the woman do something wrong, or did you foolishly lose your head and thoughtlessly assault her?" It was not so much what he said that touched this man's heart as the kindly look and the sympathetic smile which Jesus bestowed upon him at the conclusion of his remarks. Said the man: "I perceive you are a priest of the Cynics, and I am thankful you restrained me. My wife has done no great wrong; she is a good woman, but she irritates me by the manner in which she picks on me in public, and I lose my temper. I am sorry for my lack of self-control, and I promise to try to live up to my former pledge to one of your brothers who taught me the better way many years ago. I promise you."
P.1471 - §1 And then, in bidding him farewell, Jesus said: "My brother, always remember that man has no rightful authority over woman unless the woman has willingly and voluntarily given him such authority. Your wife has engaged to go through life with you, to help you fight its battles, and to assume the far greater share of the burden of bearing and rearing your children; and in return for this special service it is only fair that she receive from you that special protection which man can give to woman as the partner who must carry, bear, and nurture the children. The loving care and consideration which a man is willing to bestow upon his wife and their children are the measure of that man's attainment of the higher levels of creative and spiritual self-consciousness. Do you not know that men and women are partners with God in that they co-operate to create beings who grow up to possess themselves of the potential of immortal souls? The Father in heaven treats the Spirit Mother of the children of the universe as one equal to himself. It is Godlike to share your life and all that relates thereto on equal terms with the mother partner who so fully shares with you that divine experience of reproducing yourselves in the lives of your children. If you can only love your children as God loves you, you will love and cherish your wife as the Father in heaven honors and exalts the Infinite Spirit, the mother of all the spirit children of a vast universe."
P.1471 - §2 As they went on board the boat, they looked back upon the scene of the teary-eyed couple standing in silent embrace. Having heard the latter half of Jesus' message to the man, Gonod was all day occupied with meditations thereon, and he resolved to reorganize his home when he returned to India.
P.1471 - §3 The journey to Nicopolis was pleasant but slow as the wind was not favorable. The three spent many hours recounting their experiences in Rome and reminiscing about all that had happened to them since they first met in Jerusalem. Ganid was becoming imbued with the spirit of personal ministry. He began work on the steward of the ship, but on the second day, when he got into deep religious water, he called on Joshua to help him out.
P.1471 - §4 They spent several days at Nicopolis, the city which Augustus had founded some fifty years before as the "city of victory" in commemoration of the battle of Actium, this site being the land whereon he camped with his army before the battle. They lodged in the home of one Jeramy, a Greek proselyte of the Jewish faith, whom they had met on shipboard. The Apostle Paul spent all winter with the son of Jeramy in the same house in the course of his third missionary journey. From Nicopolis they sailed on the same boat for Corinth, the capital of the Roman province of Achaia.
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Good Day NelsonG, Carolyn, Alina, Raymond, Carola, Fellow Students, Forum Friends, Members and Guests,
Judging from this exchange between Jesus and the wife abuser, don't you think there must have been a special regard and allowance for priestly intervention, or at least a wide spread respect for the wisdom of the Cynics:
...Said the man: "I perceive you are a priest of the Cynics, and I am thankful you restrained me...." P.1470 - 2
This abuser wasn't at all offended by Jesus' taking him to task over his brutal behavior, he thanked him! And Jesus didn't bother denying he was a priest, he seemed somehow to have estimated the right approach to the man (tapping him gently on the shoulder and taking him to one side) even before he began his measured reproach.
And look at the result of the intervention!!!
...As they went on board the boat, they looked back upon the scene of the teary-eyed couple standing in silent embrace.... P.1471 - 2
Gets me teary-eyed :)
And this small, brief episode near Tarentum, Italy had ramifications all the way to Asia, via Ganid's father. Evidently Gonod's household didn't especially respect womankind before this occurred:

...Gonod was all day occupied with meditations thereon, and he resolved to reorganize his home when he returned to India.... P.1471 - 2
Wonder what happened here, with Ganid:
...He began work on the steward of the ship, but on the second day, when he got into deep religious water, he called on Joshua to help him out.... P.1471 - 3
Ganid is such an interesting character, isn't he? Maybe we'll catch up with him, or at least follow his afterlife in Mansonia.
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...They spent several days at Nicopolis, the city which Augustus had founded some fifty years before as the "city of victory" in commemoration of the battle of Actium.... P.1471 - 4

The quote above is corroborated by historians:

 

Nicopolis (Greek: "City of Victory") was an ancient city of Epirus, founded 31 BC by Octavian in memory of his victory over Antony and Cleopatra at Actium the previous year. It was later the capital of Epirus Vetus. It is on the west coast of Greece.
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Octavian became Augustus:

On 16 January 27 BC the Senate gave Octavian the new titles of Augustus and Princeps. Augustus, from the Latin word Augere (meaning to increase), can be translated as "the illustrious one"
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The statue known as the Augustus of Prima Porta, 1st century Reign 16 January 27 BC – 19 August AD 14 Full name Imperator Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus Divi Filius Augustus

 

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About their stay with Jeramy:

 

...They lodged in the home of one Jeramy, a Greek proselyte of the Jewish faith, whom they had met on shipboard. The Apostle Paul spent all winter with the son of Jeramy in the same house in the course of his third missionary journey.... P.1471 - 4
Did Paul know Jesus preceded him at Nicopolis? Probably not, since Jesus' life was so comparmentalized. The plan for this visit was recorded in the Bible's New Testament by Paul:
Titus 3:12 "When I shall send Artemas unto thee, or Tychicus, be diligent to come unto me to Nicopolis: for I have determined there to winter."

 

There is quite a bit more about Paul's subsequent sojourn in this region of Greece in tomorrow's reading, also about Ganid's growing interest in Jewish family life, and details of an encounter with two prostitutes whose lives Jesus redirects. Section 3 is titled: AT CORINTH
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One more note study Amigos,

 

Achaia was mentioned in the last line of today's text:

 

 

...From Nicopolis they sailed on the same boat for Corinth, the capital of the Roman province of Achaia.... P.1471 - 4

 

Achaea or Achaia, is one of the regional units of Greece. It is part of the region of West Greece and is situated in the northwestern part of the Peloponnese peninsula. The capital is Patras. Since 2001, the population has exceeded 300,000.
Ancient era

Ancient peloponnese[(interactive version)

 

The Achaean League was a Hellenistic-era confederation of city states in Achaea, founded in 280/281 BCE. It later grew until it included most of Peloponnese, much reducing the Macedonian rule in the area.

 

After Macedon's defeat by the Romans in the late 2nd century AD, the League was able to finally defeat a heavily weakened Sparta and take control of the entire Peloponnese. However, as the Roman influence in the area grew, the league erupted into an open revolt against Roman domination, in what is known as Achaean War. The Achaeans were defeated at the Battle of Corinth (146 BC), and the League was dissolved by the Romans.

 

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Ancient Peloponnese

 

 

History
Main article: Ancient Corinth

Corinth derives its name from Ancient Corinth, a city-state of antiquity. In 1858, the old city of Corinth (now known as Archaia Korinthos (Αρχαία Κόρινθος), located 3 km (1.9 mi) SW of the modern city), was totally destroyed by an earthquake. This led to the establishment of Nea or New Corinth, on the coast of the Gulf of Corinth. New Corinth was rebuilt after a further earthquake in 1928 and again after a great fire in 1933.

 

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Welcome to The OPAD Online Study Session
Today's Presentation:
PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME
3. AT CORINTH
P.1471 - §5 By the time they reached Corinth, Ganid was becoming very much interested in the Jewish religion, and so it was not strange that, one day as they passed the synagogue and saw the people going in, he requested Jesus to take him to the service. That day they heard a learned rabbi discourse on the "Destiny of Israel," and after the service they met one Crispus, the chief ruler of this synagogue. Many times they went back to the synagogue services, but chiefly to meet Crispus. Ganid grew to be very fond of Crispus, his wife, and their family of five children. He much enjoyed observing how a Jew conducted his family life.
P.1472 - §1 While Ganid studied family life, Jesus was teaching Crispus the better ways of religious living. Jesus held more than twenty sessions with this forward-looking Jew; and it is not surprising, years afterward, when Paul was preaching in this very synagogue, and when the Jews had rejected his message and had voted to forbid his further preaching in the synagogue, and when he then went to the gentiles, that Crispus with his entire family embraced the new religion, and that he became one of the chief supports of the Christian church which Paul subsequently organized at Corinth.
P.1472 - §2 During the eighteen months Paul preached in Corinth, being later joined by Silas and Timothy, he met many others who had been taught by the "Jewish tutor of the son of an Indian merchant."
P.1472 - §3 At Corinth they met people of every race hailing from three continents. Next to Alexandria and Rome, it was the most cosmopolitan city of the Mediterranean empire. There was much to attract one's attention in this city, and Ganid never grew weary of visiting the citadel which stood almost two thousand feet above the sea. He also spent a great deal of his spare time about the synagogue and in the home of Crispus. He was at first shocked, and later on charmed, by the status of woman in the Jewish home; it was a revelation to this young Indian.
P.1472 - §4 Jesus and Ganid were often guests in another Jewish home, that of Justus, a devout merchant, who lived alongside the synagogue. And many times, subsequently, when the Apostle Paul sojourned in this home, did he listen to the recounting of these visits with the Indian lad and his Jewish tutor, while both Paul and Justus wondered whatever became of such a wise and brilliant Hebrew teacher.
P.1472 - §5 When in Rome, Ganid observed that Jesus refused to accompany them to the public baths. Several times afterward the young man sought to induce Jesus further to express himself in regard to the relations of the sexes. Though he would answer the lad's questions, he never seemed disposed to discuss these subjects at great length. One evening as they strolled about Corinth out near where the wall of the citadel ran down to the sea, they were accosted by two public women. Ganid had imbibed the idea, and rightly, that Jesus was a man of high ideals, and that he abhorred everything which partook of uncleanness or savored of evil; accordingly he spoke sharply to these women and rudely motioned them away. When Jesus saw this, he said to Ganid: "You mean well, but you should not presume thus to speak to the children of God, even though they chance to be his erring children. Who are we that we should sit in judgment on these women? Do you happen to know all of the circumstances which led them to resort to such methods of obtaining a livelihood? Stop here with me while we talk about these matters." The courtesans were astonished at what he said even more than was Ganid.
P.1472 - §6 As they stood there in the moonlight, Jesus went on to say: "There lives within every human mind a divine spirit, the gift of the Father in heaven. This good spirit ever strives to lead us to God, to help us to find God and to know God; but also within mortals there are many natural physical tendencies which the Creator put there to serve the well-being of the individual and the race. Now, oftentimes, men and women become confused in their efforts to understand themselves and to grapple with the manifold difficulties of making a living in a world so largely dominated by selfishness and sin. I perceive, Ganid, that neither of these women is willfully wicked. I can tell by their faces that they have experienced much sorrow; they have suffered much at the hands of an apparently cruel fate; they have not intentionally chosen this sort of life; they have, in discouragement bordering on despair, surrendered to the pressure of the hour and accepted this distasteful means of obtaining a livelihood as the best way out of a situation that to them appeared hopeless. Ganid, some people are really wicked at heart; they deliberately choose to do mean things, but, tell me, as you look into these now tear-stained faces, do you see anything bad or wicked?" And as Jesus paused for his reply, Ganid's voice choked up as he stammered out his answer: "No, Teacher, I do not. And I apologize for my rudeness to them--I crave their forgiveness." Then said Jesus: "And I bespeak for them that they have forgiven you as I speak for my Father in heaven that he has forgiven them. Now all of you come with me to a friend's house where we will seek refreshment and plan for the new and better life ahead." Up to this time the amazed women had not uttered a word; they looked at each other and silently followed as the men led the way.
P.1473 - §1 Imagine the surprise of Justus' wife when, at this late hour, Jesus appeared with Ganid and these two strangers, saying: "You will forgive us for coming at this hour, but Ganid and I desire a bite to eat, and we would share it with these our new-found friends, who are also in need of nourishment; and besides all this, we come to you with the thought that you will be interested in counseling with us as to the best way to help these women get a new start in life. They can tell you their story, but I surmise they have had much trouble, and their very presence here in your house testifies how earnestly they crave to know good people, and how willingly they will embrace the opportunity to show all the world--and even the angels of heaven--what brave and noble women they can become."
P.1473 - §2 When Martha, Justus' wife, had spread the food on the table, Jesus, taking unexpected leave of them, said: "As it is getting late, and since the young man's father will be awaiting us, we pray to be excused while we leave you here together--three women--the beloved children of the Most High. And I will pray for your spiritual guidance while you make plans for a new and better life on earth and eternal life in the great beyond."
P.1473 - §3 Thus did Jesus and Ganid take leave of the women. So far the two courtesans had said nothing; likewise was Ganid speechless. And for a few moments so was Martha, but presently she rose to the occasion and did everything for these strangers that Jesus had hoped for. The elder of these two women died a short time thereafter, with bright hopes of eternal survival, and the younger woman worked at Justus' place of business and later became a lifelong member of the first Christian church in Corinth.
P.1473 - §4 Several times in the home of Crispus, Jesus and Ganid met one Gaius, who subsequently became a loyal supporter of Paul. During these two months in Corinth they held intimate conversations with scores of worth-while individuals, and as a result of all these apparently casual contacts more than half of the individuals so affected became members of the subsequent Christian community.
P.1473 - §5 When Paul first went to Corinth, he had not intended to make a prolonged visit. But he did not know how well the Jewish tutor had prepared the way for his labors. And further, he discovered that great interest had already been aroused by Aquila and Priscilla, Aquila being one of the Cynics with whom Jesus had come in contact when in Rome. This couple were Jewish refugees from Rome, and they quickly embraced Paul's teachings. He lived with them and worked with them, for they were also tentmakers. It was because of these circumstances that Paul prolonged his stay in Corinth.
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Good Day NelsonG, Carolyn, Alina, Raymond, Carola, Fellow Students, Forum Friends, Members and Guests,
Apologies for posting two pages today in a one-page-a-day study session, but there were no breaks in the storyline near the middle that favored splitting it.
What a fascinating read! And what an understanding and caring person Justus' wife. Time has forgotten neither Crispus nor Justus, Aquila nor Pricilla, Silas nor Timothy, nor Gaius, albeit they are somewhat confused by historians, or recorded only in the Bible.
But first a little more about this very ancient yet "cosmopolitan" city that played such a pivotal role in seeding and germinating western Christianity, thanks mostly to the Greek convert Paul, and of course, Jesus' preparatory tilling of the cultural soil on this Greek peninsula:

Neolithic pottery suggests that the site of Corinth was occupied from at least as early as 6500 BC, and continually occupied into the Early Bronze Age, when, it has been suggested, the settlement acted as a centre of trade.

...In classical times, Corinth rivaled Athens and Thebes in wealth, based on the Isthmian traffic and trade. Until the mid-6th century, Corinth was a major exporter of black-figure pottery to city-states around the Greek world. Athenian potters later came to dominate the market.

 

During some time, in classical times and earlier, Corinth supposedly had a temple of the goddess Aphrodite, the goddess of love, employing some thousand hetairas (temple prostitutes) (see also Prostitution in ancient Greece#Temple prostitution in Corinth).

 

...Corinth is mentioned many times in the New Testament, largely in connection with Paul the Apostle's mission there. Traditionally, the church of Corinth is believed to have been founded by Paul, making it an Apostolic See.

 

Under the Romans, Corinth was rebuilt as a major city in Southern Greece or Achaia. It had a large mixed population of Romans, Greeks, and Jews.

 

When the apostle Paul first visited the city (AD 51 or 52), Gallio, the brother of Seneca, was proconsul. Paul resided here for eighteen months (see Acts 18:1–18). Here he first became acquainted with Priscilla and Aquila with whom he worked and traveled.

 

Paul wrote at least two epistles to the Christian community, the First Epistle to the Corinthians (written from Ephesus) and the Second Epistle to the Corinthians (written from Macedonia). The first Epistle occasionally reflects the conflict between the thriving Christian church and the surrounding community.

 

Some scholars believe that Paul visited Corinth for a brief intermediate "painful visit" (see 2Corinthians 2:1), between the first and second epistles. After writing the second epistle he stayed in Corinth for about three months[Acts 20:3] in the late winter, and there wrote his Epistle to the Romans.

 

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The Ancient Roman Fountain

 

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...While Ganid studied family life, Jesus was teaching Crispus the better ways of religious living.... P.1472 - 1
Crispus' is also the name of a latter Roman ruler, and well recorded in the annals of history.

Flavius Julius Crispus (died 326), also known as Flavius Claudius Crispus and Flavius Valerius Crispus, was a Caesar of the Roman Empire. He was the first-born son of Constantine I and Minervina.

 

But Corinth's Crispus of Jesus' times is recorded in the Bible's New Testament:
1 Corinthians 1:14 "I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius."

 

 

About Silas and Timothy:
...During the eighteen months Paul preached in Corinth, being later joined by Silas and Timothy, he met many others who had been taught by the "Jewish tutor of the son of an Indian merchant...." P.1472 - 2
Both were subsequently sainted by the church:
Saint Silas or Saint Silvanus (Greek: 1st century AD) was a leading member of the Early Christian community, who later accompanied Paul on parts of his first and second missionary journeys.
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Timothy (Greek: Timótheos, meaning "honouring God" or "honored by God") was a first-century Christian bishop who died around the year 97 AD. The New Testament indicates that Timothy traveled with Saint Paul, who was also his mentor. He is addressed as the recipient of the Epistles to Timothy.
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From the Bible:

 

Acts 18:5 "And when Silas and Timotheus were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was Christ."

 

 

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From recent news reports, the status of woman in India is still in jeopardy:
...He was at first shocked, and later on charmed, by the status of woman in the Jewish home; it was a revelation to this young Indian.... P.1472 - 3
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About Justus. From today's reading:
He found no place in secular history, but his name and his home's location is cited and confirmed in the New Testament:
...Jesus and Ganid were often guests in another Jewish home, that of Justus, a devout merchant, who lived alongside the synagogue.... P.1472 - 4
Acts 18:7 "And he departed thence, and entered into a certain man's house, named Justus, one that worshipped God, whose house joined hard to the synagogue."

 

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There are two mentions of Jesus declining to enter the Roman bathhouses. From Paper 132:4:
...The only place in Rome he did not visit was the public baths. He refused to accompany his friends to the baths because of the sex promiscuity which there prevailed.... P.1461 - 3
...and today's reading:
...When in Rome, Ganid observed that Jesus refused to accompany them to the public baths....P.1472 - 5
Jesus' attitude toward prostitution is underlined by his endeavor to find the two women another line of work, and thanks to Justus and family, his attempt worked--and paid dividends to the new church:

...The elder of these two women died a short time thereafter, with bright hopes of eternal survival, and the younger woman worked at Justus' place of business and later became a lifelong member of the first Christian church in Corinth.... P.1473 - 3
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About Gaius, cited in today's reading:
...Several times in the home of Crispus, Jesus and Ganid met one Gaius, who subsequently became a loyal supporter of Paul.... P.1473 - 4
He too appears to be lost to secular history, but did make it into the New Testament:
1 Corinthians 1:14 "I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius."
Romans 16:23 "Gaius mine host, and of the whole church, saluteth you. Erastus the chamberlain of the city saluteth you, and Quartus a brother."

 


 

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About Aquila and Priscilla, Paul's tentmaker friends:
...he discovered that great interest had already been aroused by Aquila and Priscilla, Aquila being one of the Cynics with whom Jesus had come in contact when in Rome.... P.1473 - 5

Priscilla and Aquila were a first century Christian missionary married couple described in the New Testament and traditionally listed among the Seventy Disciples. They lived, worked, and traveled with the Apostle Paul, becoming his honored, much-loved friends and coworkers in Christ Jesus. Priscilla and Aquila are described in the New Testament as providing a presence that strengthened the early Jesus groups. Paul was generous in his recognition and acknowledgment of his indebtedness to them.[Rom. 16:3-4] This husband-wife team were missionaries who accompanied Paul on one of his journeys.

 

Together, they are credited with instructing Apollos, a major evangelist of the first century, and "[explaining] to him the way of God more accurately".[Acts 18:26] Their mutuality in ministry and their leadership can inspire Christian couples today to work together as teachers and preachers of the gospel.Priscilla is the classical example of a woman teacher in early church history. She was a celebrated missionary, pastor, and co-worker of Paul.She is thought by some to be the anonymous author of the Epistle to the Hebrews.

 

 

From the New Testament:

...After this Paul left Athens and went to Corinth. There he found a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla, because Claudius had ordered all Jews to leave Rome. Paul went to see them, and, because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them, and they worked together – by trade they were tentmakers. Every sabbath he would argue in the synagogue and would try to convince Jews and Greeks. (Acts 18:1–4)
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Acts 18:18 "And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow."
Acts 18:26 "And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly."

1 Corinthians 16:19 "The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house."
2 Timothy 4:19 "Salute Prisca and Aquila, and the household of Onesiphorus."
Romans 16:3 "Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus."

 

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In tomorrow's reading there is a marvelous collection of wisdom imparted here and there to various people they met while sojourning in northern Peloponnesian. Section 4 is titled: PERSONAL WORK IN CORINTH
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PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME
4. PERSONAL WORK IN CORINTH
P.1474 - §1 Jesus and Ganid had many more interesting experiences in Corinth. They had close converse with a great number of persons who greatly profited by the instruction received from Jesus.
P.1474 - §2 The miller he taught about grinding up the grains of truth in the mill of living experience so as to render the difficult things of divine life readily receivable by even the weak and feeble among one's fellow mortals. Said Jesus: "Give the milk of truth to those who are babes in spiritual perception. In your living and loving ministry serve spiritual food in attractive form and suited to the capacity of receptivity of each of your inquirers."
P.1474 - §3 To the Roman centurion he said: "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's and unto God the things which are God's. The sincere service of God and the loyal service of Caesar do not conflict unless Caesar should presume to arrogate to himself that homage which alone can be claimed by Deity. Loyalty to God, if you should come to know him, would render you all the more loyal and faithful in your devotion to a worthy emperor."
P.1474 - §4 To the earnest leader of the Mithraic cult he said: "You do well to seek for a religion of eternal salvation, but you err to go in quest of such a glorious truth among man-made mysteries and human philosophies. Know you not that the mystery of eternal salvation dwells within your own soul? Do you not know that the God of heaven has sent his spirit to live within you, and that this spirit will lead all truth-loving and God-serving mortals out of this life and through the portals of death up to the eternal heights of light where God waits to receive his children? And never forget: You who know God are the sons of God if you truly yearn to be like him."
P.1474 - §5 To the Epicurean teacher he said: "You do well to choose the best and esteem the good, but are you wise when you fail to discern the greater things of mortal life which are embodied in the spirit realms derived from the realization of the presence of God in the human heart? The great thing in all human experience is the realization of knowing the God whose spirit lives within you and seeks to lead you forth on that long and almost endless journey of attaining the personal presence of our common Father, the God of all creation, the Lord of universes."
P.1474 - §6 To the Greek contractor and builder he said: "My friend, as you build the material structures of men, grow a spiritual character in the similitude of the divine spirit within your soul. Do not let your achievement as a temporal builder outrun your attainment as a spiritual son of the kingdom of heaven. While you build the mansions of time for another, neglect not to secure your title to the mansions of eternity for yourself. Ever remember, there is a city whose foundations are righteousness and truth, and whose builder and maker is God."
P.1474 - §7 To the Roman judge he said: "As you judge men, remember that you yourself will also some day come to judgment before the bar of the Rulers of a universe. Judge justly, even mercifully, even as you shall some day thus crave merciful consideration at the hands of the Supreme Arbiter. Judge as you would be judged under similar circumstances, thus being guided by the spirit of the law as well as by its letter. And even as you accord justice dominated by fairness in the light of the need of those who are brought before you, so shall you have the right to expect justice tempered by mercy when you sometime stand before the Judge of all the earth."
P.1475 - §1 To the mistress of the Greek inn he said: "Minister your hospitality as one who entertains the children of the Most High. Elevate the drudgery of your daily toil to the high levels of a fine art through the increasing realization that you minister to God in the persons whom he indwells by his spirit which has descended to live within the hearts of men, thereby seeking to transform their minds and lead their souls to the knowledge of the Paradise Father of all these bestowed gifts of the divine spirit."
P.1475 - §2 Jesus had many visits with a Chinese merchant. In saying good-bye, he admonished him: "Worship only God, who is your true spirit ancestor. Remember that the Father's spirit ever lives within you and always points your soul-direction heavenward. If you follow the unconscious leadings of this immortal spirit, you are certain to continue on in the uplifted way of finding God. And when you do attain the Father in heaven, it will be because by seeking him you have become more and more like him. And so farewell, Chang, but only for a season, for we shall meet again in the worlds of light where the Father of spirit souls has provided many delightful stopping-places for those who are Paradise-bound."
P.1475 - §3 To the traveler from Britain he said: "My brother, I perceive you are seeking for truth, and I suggest that the spirit of the Father of all truth may chance to dwell within you. Did you ever sincerely endeavor to talk with the spirit of your own soul? Such a thing is indeed difficult and seldom yields consciousness of success; but every honest attempt of the material mind to communicate with its indwelling spirit meets with certain success, notwithstanding that the majority of all such magnificent human experiences must long remain as superconscious registrations in the souls of such God-knowing mortals."
P.1475 - §4 To the runaway lad Jesus said: "Remember, there are two things you cannot run away from--God and yourself. Wherever you may go, you take with you yourself and the spirit of the heavenly Father which lives within your heart. My son, stop trying to deceive yourself; settle down to the courageous practice of facing the facts of life; lay firm hold on the assurances of sonship with God and the certainty of eternal life, as I have instructed you. From this day on purpose to be a real man, a man determined to face life bravely and intelligently."
P.1475 - §5 To the condemned criminal he said at the last hour: "My brother, you have fallen on evil times. You lost your way; you became entangled in the meshes of crime. From talking to you, I well know you did not plan to do the thing which is about to cost you your temporal life. But you did do this evil, and your fellows have adjudged you guilty; they have determined that you shall die. You or I may not deny the state this right of self-defense in the manner of its own choosing. There seems to be no way of humanly escaping the penalty of your wrongdoing. Your fellows must judge you by what you did, but there is a Judge to whom you may appeal for forgiveness, and who will judge you by your real motives and better intentions. You need not fear to meet the judgment of God if your repentance is genuine and your faith sincere. The fact that your error carries with it the death penalty imposed by man does not prejudice the chance of your soul to obtain justice and enjoy mercy before the heavenly courts."
P.1476 - §1 Jesus enjoyed many intimate talks with a large number of hungry souls, too many to find a place in this record. The three travelers enjoyed their sojourn in Corinth. Excepting Athens, which was more renowned as an educational center, Corinth was the most important city in Greece during these Roman times, and their two months' stay in this thriving commercial center afforded opportunity for all three of them to gain much valuable experience. Their sojourn in this city was one of the most interesting of all their stops on the way back from Rome.
P.1476 - §2 Gonod had many interests in Corinth, but finally his business was finished, and they prepared to sail for Athens. They traveled on a small boat which could be carried overland on a land track from one of Corinth's harbors to the other, a distance of ten miles.
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Greetings, Carolyn, NelsonG, Alina, Raymond, Carola, Fellow Students, Forum Friends, Members and Visitors,
What a smorgasbord of wisdom and spiritual instruction. And to think today's reading lists but a few of his teachings at Corinth:

 

...Jesus enjoyed many intimate talks with a large number of hungry souls, too many to find a place in this record.... P.1476 - 1

Now we know he conceived the "give unto Caesar" idea long before that famous incident where the temple rulers tried to trap him. From today's reading:
...To the Roman centurion he said: "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's and unto God the things which are God's.... P.1474 - 3

...Tuesday morning, when Jesus arrived in the temple court and began to teach, he had uttered but few words when a group of the younger students from the academies, who had been rehearsed for this purpose, came forward and by their spokesman addressed Jesus: "Master, we know you are a righteous teacher, and we know that you proclaim the ways of truth, and that you serve only God, for you fear no man, and that you are no respecter of persons. We are only students, and we would know the truth about a matter which troubles us; our difficulty is this: Is it lawful for us to give tribute to Caesar? Shall we give or shall we not give?" Jesus, perceiving their hypocrisy and craftiness, said to them: "Why do you thus come to tempt me? Show me the tribute money, and I will answer you." And when they handed him a denarius, he looked at it and said, "Whose image and superscription does this coin bear?" And when they answered him, "Caesar's," Jesus said, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and render to God the things that are God's...." P.1899 - 2
From his "Discourse on Sonship and Citizenship", in Paper 178:1:
...There is nothing incompatible between sonship in the spiritual kingdom and citizenship in the secular or civil government. It is the believer's duty to render to Caesar the things which are Caesar's and to God the things which are God's. There cannot be any disagreement between these two requirements, the one being material and the other spiritual, unless it should develop that a Caesar presumes to usurp the prerogatives of God and demand that spiritual homage and supreme worship be rendered to him. In such a case you shall worship only God while you seek to enlighten such misguided earthly rulers and in this way lead them also to the recognition of the Father in heaven.... P.1929 - 4
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Many of these teachings found their way into the Bible's New Testament.
Rendering unto Caesar:

 

Mark 12:17 "And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him."
Matthew 22:21 "They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

 

 


God's indwelling:

John 17:21-23 "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me."

Luke 17:21 "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

Matthew 10:20 "For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you."

 

 


City of God and Mansions:

 

Hebrews 11:10 "For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God."

John 14:2 "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you."

 

 

 

Temporal riches versus spiritual wealth:

Luke 12:21 "So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."

Matthew 6:19-20 "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal."

 

Worship only God:

 

Matthew 4:10 "Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."

 

 

 

Justice, mercy and fairness:

Luke 6:38 "Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again."

Matthew 7:2 "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."

Luke 6:36-38 "Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again."

Luke 11:4 "And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us.
And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil."

Mark 11:25-26 "And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

Matthew 6:12-15 "And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."


 

 

 

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While at Corinth Jesus reached out to seekers from as far away as Britain and China, and we are told he also advised a woman:

 

...To the mistress of the Greek inn he said: "Minister your hospitality as one who entertains the children of the Most High...." P.1475 - 1

 

For two months he roamed the neck of the Peloponnesian peninsula, leaving behind well plowed ground with germinating seeds of truth that were soon to be watered by Paul and other followers of Greek and Roman hertiage.

 

At last Gonod signaled they were ready to depart for Athens:

 

...They traveled on a small boat which could be carried overland on a land track from one of Corinth's harbors to the other, a distance of ten miles.... P.1476 - 2

 

Much later (1882) a canal was cut through this land connecting the two seas. Even Nero planned it and failed, but he wasn't the first:

 

Several rulers in antiquity dreamed of digging a cutting through the Isthmus. The first to propose such an undertaking was the tyrant Periander in the 7th century BC. However, the project was abandoned and Periander instead constructed a simpler and less costly overland portage road, named the Diolkos or stone carriageway, along which ships could be towed from one side of the isthmus to the other.
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Aerial photography of the Corinth Canal area (2011).

 

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In tomorrow's reading the trio arrives in that great and ancient learning center of the Mediterranean basin, where Jesus delivers an 'astounding' teaching on matter and spirit, logic and values, reality and unity. Section 5 is titled: AT ATHENS--DISCOURSE ON SCIENCE
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P.1474 - §2 The miller he taught about grinding up the grains of truth in the mill of living experience so as to render the difficult things of divine life readily receivable by even the weak and feeble among one's fellow mortals. Said Jesus: "Give the milk of truth to those who are babes in spiritual perception. In your living and loving ministry serve spiritual food in attractive form and suited to the capacity of receptivity of each of your inquirers."



Good Day Rick !
Is so difficult to choose a single teaching! are all very enlightening and embrace many interesting aspects.
I like this as complement because it helps in the experiences and serve us spiritual food for everyone...

 

(552.6)48:6.8 Even on Urantia they counsel the human teachers of truth and righteousness to adhere to the preaching of “the goodness of God, which leads to repentance,” to proclaim “the love of God, which casts out all fear.” Even so have these truths been declared on your world:

 

(552.7)48:6.9 The Gods are my caretakers; I shall not stray;

(552.8)48:6.10 Side by side they lead me in the beautiful paths and glorious refreshing of life everlasting.

(552.9) 48:6.11 I shall not, in this Divine Presence, want for food nor thirst for water.

(552.10)48:6.12 Though I go down into the valley of uncertainty or ascend up into the worlds of doubt,

(552.11)48:6.13 Though I move in loneliness or with the fellows of my kind,

(552.12)48:6.14 Though I triumph in the choirs of light or falter in the solitary places of the spheres,

(552.13)48:6.15 Your good spirit shall minister to me, and your glorious angel will comfort me.

(552.14)48:6.16 Though I descend into the depths of darkness and death itself,

(552.15)48:6.17 I shall not doubt you nor fear you,

(552.16)48:6.18 For I know that in the fullness of time and the glory of your name

(552.17)48:6.19 You will raise me up to sit with you on the battlements on high.

 

(553.1)48:6.20 That is the story whispered in the night season to the shepherd boy. He could not retain it word for word, but to the best of his memory he gave it much as it is recorded today.

 

 

 

Greetings,

 

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Hi Alina, all,
Each of these 11 marvelous paragraphs about his personal contacts at Corinth deserves its own study, doesn't it!? It's like viewing light through a diamond from many angles. Thanks so much for lighting the miller's and shepherd boy's views.
In his teaching to the Mithraic leader, Jesus cited one of the UB's broader but not commonly known themes, with many ties to other Papers and authors: Godlikeness.
From today's reading:

"...And never forget: You who know God are the sons of God if you truly yearn to be like him...." P.1474 - 4
Four more:

...These divine qualities are perfectly and absolutely unified in God. And every God-knowing man or angel possesses the potential of unlimited self-expression on ever-progressive levels of unified self-realization by the technique of the never-ending achievement of Godlikeness--the experiential blending in the evolutionary experience of eternal truth, universal beauty, and divine goodness.... P.507 - 5 44:7
...Actual spiritual status is the measure of Deity attainment, Adjuster attunement. The achievement of finality of spirituality is equivalent to the attainment of the maximum of reality, the maximum of Godlikeness. Eternal life is the endless quest for infinite values....P.1096 - 2 100:2
...Material evolution has provided you a life machine, your body; the Father himself has endowed you with the purest spirit reality known in the universe, your Thought Adjuster. But into your hands, subject to your own decisions, has been given mind, and it is by mind that you live or die. It is within this mind and with this mind that you make those moral decisions which enable you to achieve Adjusterlikeness, and that is Godlikeness.... P.1216 - 5 111:1
...It is not only man's own limitations which prevent him from finding the finite God; it is also the incompletion of the universe; even the incompletion of all creatures--past, present, and future--makes the Supreme inaccessible. God the Father can be found by any individual who has attained the divine level of Godlikeness, but God the Supreme will never be personally discovered by any one creature until that far-distant time when, through the universal attainment of perfection, all creatures will simultaneously find him.... P.1290 - 2 117:6

 

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Welcome to The OPAD Online Study Session
Today's Presentation:
PAPER 133 - THE RETURN FROM ROME
5. AT ATHENS--DISCOURSE ON SCIENCE
P.1476 - §3 They shortly arrived at the olden center of Greek science and learning, and Ganid was thrilled with the thought of being in Athens, of being in Greece, the cultural center of the onetime Alexandrian empire, which had extended its borders even to his own land of India. There was little business to transact; so Gonod spent most of his time with Jesus and Ganid, visiting the many points of interest and listening to the interesting discussions of the lad and his versatile teacher.
P.1476 - §4 A great university still thrived in Athens, and the trio made frequent visits to its halls of learning. Jesus and Ganid had thoroughly discussed the teachings of Plato when they attended the lectures in the museum at Alexandria. They all enjoyed the art of Greece, examples of which were still to be found here and there about the city.
P.1476 - §5 Both the father and the son greatly enjoyed the discussion on science which Jesus had at their inn one evening with a Greek philosopher. After this pedant had talked for almost three hours, and when he had finished his discourse, Jesus, in terms of modern thought, said:
P.1476 - §6 Scientists may some day measure the energy, or force manifestations, of gravitation, light, and electricity, but these same scientists can never (scientifically) tell you what these universe phenomena are. Science deals with physical-energy activities; religion deals with eternal values. True philosophy grows out of the wisdom which does its best to correlate these quantitative and qualitative observations. There always exists the danger that the purely physical scientist may become afflicted with mathematical pride and statistical egotism, not to mention spiritual blindness.
P.1476 - §7 Logic is valid in the material world, and mathematics is reliable when limited in its application to physical things; but neither is to be regarded as wholly dependable or infallible when applied to life problems. Life embraces phenomena which are not wholly material. Arithmetic says that, if one man could shear a sheep in ten minutes, ten men could shear it in one minute. That is sound mathematics, but it is not true, for the ten men could not so do it; they would get in one another's way so badly that the work would be greatly delayed.
P.1477 - §1 Mathematics asserts that, if one person stands for a certain unit of intellectual and moral value, ten persons would stand for ten times this value. But in dealing with human personality it would be nearer the truth to say that such a personality association is a sum equal to the square of the number of personalities concerned in the equation rather than the simple arithmetical sum. A social group of human beings in co-ordinated working harmony stands for a force far greater than the simple sum of its parts.
P.1477 - §2 Quantity may be identified as a fact, thus becoming a scientific uniformity. Quality, being a matter of mind interpretation, represents an estimate of values, and must, therefore, remain an experience of the individual. When both science and religion become less dogmatic and more tolerant of criticism, philosophy will then begin to achieve unity in the intelligent comprehension of the universe.
P.1477 - §3 There is unity in the cosmic universe if you could only discern its workings in actuality. The real universe is friendly to every child of the eternal God. The real problem is: How can the finite mind of man achieve a logical, true, and corresponding unity of thought? This universe-knowing state of mind can be had only by conceiving that the quantitative fact and the qualitative value have a common causation in the Paradise Father. Such a conception of reality yields a broader insight into the purposeful unity of universe phenomena; it even reveals a spiritual goal of progressive personality achievement. And this is a concept of unity which can sense the unchanging background of a living universe of continually changing impersonal relations and evolving personal relationships.
P.1477 - §4 Matter and spirit and the state intervening between them are three interrelated and interassociated levels of the true unity of the real universe. Regardless of how divergent the universe phenomena of fact and value may appear to be, they are, after all, unified in the Supreme.
P.1477 - §5 Reality of material existence attaches to unrecognized energy as well as to visible matter. When the energies of the universe are so slowed down that they acquire the requisite degree of motion, then, under favorable conditions, these same energies become mass. And forget not, the mind which can alone perceive the presence of apparent realities is itself also real. And the fundamental cause of this universe of energy-mass, mind, and spirit, is eternal--it exists and consists in the nature and reactions of the Universal Father and his absolute co-ordinates.

P.1477 - §6 They were all more than astounded at the words of Jesus, and when the Greek took leave of them, he said: "At last my eyes have beheld a Jew who thinks something besides racial superiority and talks something besides religion." And they retired for the night.
P.1477 - §7 The sojourn in Athens was pleasant and profitable, but it was not particularly fruitful in its human contacts. Too many of the Athenians of that day were either intellectually proud of their reputation of another day or mentally stupid and ignorant, being the offspring of the inferior slaves of those earlier periods when there was glory in Greece and wisdom in the minds of its people. Even then, there were still many keen minds to be found among the citizens of Athens.
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