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I am amazed by the Urantia Book

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I have been reading the Urantia Book for about two years and it's like I just recently began to see how amazing it really is. I have found no other book that synthesizes science, philosophy, and religion into such a coherent and convincing whole.

 

If it's not the revelation it claims to be and instead the product of human imagination, it would have to be the best science fiction book ever written. If that were the case, and I doubt it is, its spiritual truth would still remain, as it speaks to my heart and mind about the nature of God, the teachings of Jesus, and our hope for the afterlife like nothing I've ever seen.

 

Though my life hasn't dramatically improved since I first found this text, my outlook on life has definitely changed. I now see a cosmic purpose to human life that I otherwise may not have found. The more often I read the Urantia Book, the more at peace I generally feel, even if it's only a page or two a day.

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It has been a rare and personal privelage to witness such a transformative transcendence....with still more to come for all us tadpoles here. You will find, Brother, that every reading of the whole will further expand the parts within, endlessly it seems. The more you experience the truths within, the more of them there seem to be. The evidence of truthfulness lies within the experience of truth in our life.....may your heart be sublime and confident in its status as cosmic citizen and may your mind be untroubled by the mysteries still to come.

 

(1097.5) 100:4.1 Religious living is devoted living, and devoted living is creative living, original and spontaneous. New religious insights arise out of conflicts which initiate the choosing of new and better reaction habits in the place of older and inferior reaction patterns. New meanings only emerge amid conflict; and conflict persists only in the face of refusal to espouse the higher values connoted in superior meanings.

 

(1097.6) 100:4.2 Religious perplexities are inevitable; there can be no growth without psychic conflict and spiritual agitation. The organization of a philosophic standard of living entails considerable commotion in the philosophic realms of the mind. Loyalties are not exercised in behalf of the great, the good, the true, and the noble without a struggle. Effort is attendant upon clarification of spiritual vision and enhancement of cosmic insight. And the human intellect protests against being weaned from subsisting upon the nonspiritual energies of temporal existence. The slothful animal mind rebels at the effort required to wrestle with cosmic problem solving.

 

(1097.7) 100:4.3 But the great problem of religious living consists in the task of unifying the soul powers of the personality by the dominance of LOVE. Health, mental efficiency, and happiness arise from the unification of physical systems, mind systems, and spirit systems. Of health and sanity man understands much, but of happiness he has truly realized very little. The highest happiness is indissolubly linked with spiritual progress. Spiritual growth yields lasting joy, peace which passes all understanding.

 

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There are many so-called channeled texts from the past hundred years and the Urantia Book seems to stand apart from them all in terms of having the ring of authenticity, literary quality, etc.

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... and the Urantia Book seems to stand apart from them all

 

As in (spasms of a troubled mind ) vs. (description from a higher frame)?

 

Nigel

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As in (spasms of a troubled mind ) vs. (description from a higher frame)?

 

I think it's also about the difference between the subconscious and the superconscious.

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I tried reading A Course in Miracles and it made me wonder how it could be so popular compared to the Urantia Book.

Funny thing that you should bring that up. Just yesterday I was thinking about that book. I've run out of space in my library and I was contemplating what books to get rid of. That one is on the list.

 

In my opinion, its popularity is for a number of reasons, the foremost being that it is the subconscious ramblings of a psychologist. The civilized world has been enamored with psychology ever since the days of Freud and his introduction of the ego with all of its problems. Did you know that the word ego, along with all of its derivatives, appear in that book 1200 times vs 61 times in TUB?

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I've read some of Conversations With God, which I consider a better book than A Course in Miracles, but most of the best concepts of that book were already included in the Urantia Book.

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I've read some of Conversations With God, which I consider a better book than A Course in Miracles, but most of the best concepts of that book were already included in the Urantia Book.

 

That's another series of books getting dumped from my library, along with the Sylvia Browne books. I've read them all out of an abundance of curiosity, but none of them ring true to me. They're great for making money though . . .

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Some of the books I've since cleared out were a big help, getting me started :wub:

 

Nigel

 

Oh yes, without a doubt. Searching, searching and more searching has been part of the experience for me. I can't tell you how much money I've spent on books about ways to find God until I actually found him. I'm not sorry I read all that stuff, or experimented with different methods and satisfied my curiosity about all manner of spirituality, not at all. It's actually helped me understand others at various levels of their search. Although I understand where they are, I can't stop them from going down these side roads though. It appears that each person has to do their own exploring. It's all good.

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Sometimes, I look at the Amazon page for the Urantia Book and see what people who bought the Urantia Book are also buying. It's mostly new age or occult books. I wonder if they read the Urantia Book as different from these books or as just another new age book. There is even a book called the Kolbrin Bible, which seems like a knockoff of the Urantia Book.

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I've severely whittled my library down.

 

At the end of last year, I threw out anything that is based upon the mid 90's universe frame that numbers "dimensions" from 1 to x (where there's usually a minimum of 7) - and teaches that we're supposed to be raising the frequencies of our consciousness to ascend through them. I'm unapollogetically and totally through with it all.

 

I've got rid of all the various channeled works.

 

Walsh, Williamson, Chopra, Redfield, Dyer and the gang all went into the "circular file" at the same time.

 

And various works expounding on about world religions are gone now, too.

 

 

There's more to go.

This convo is great encouragement for me to keep with it.

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Before I found the urantia book, from the ages of 13 to 17. I had a period where I was ubsessed with Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer and Doreen Virtue hahah I still have a soft spot for her. I would go to rieki sessions and get "healings" from a rieki master. I had a strong belief in Atlantis and Lemuria, and some superior ancient race. So when I found those parts in the book about the Adamites and Nodites it was easy for me to accept. Even innitially after finding the u.b and even believing in its divine origin, it took me a couple years to really let all that stuff go totally. I have always tried to figure out how their philosophies fit in with the urantia book though. I have came to the conclusion that Wayne and Deepak were experiencing their spiritual consciousness but using it selfishly. They desired for an enhanced spiritual view of the world, and IMO they actually had relatively speaking a more enhanced spiritual view of the world than most human beings. But it wasn't a PERSONAL spiritual experience for them. They didn't IMO take their spiritual consciousness to the higher level of a personal religous life that Jesus had and that we can all have.

 

 

I always ask myself now, what is my motivation for actually enhancing my viewpoint of the cosmos and integrating myself with it? Is it just so that I can have this experience for myself. Or is it so that I can what I have found and apply that to the outside world in some loving service to another human being. I think these people are close to a bona-fide PERSONAL religious experience, opposed to just a purely spiritual experience if they could only take a step away from panthiesm, towards a more unselfish, personal and loving religion.

 

There is one quote in the u.b that I can think of that just calls to deepak hahah, I think anyone familiar with him will know what I mean.

 

(31.2) 1:7.2 Man does not achieve union with God as a drop of water might find unity with the ocean. Man attains divine union by progressive reciprocal spiritual communion, by personality intercourse with the personal God, by increasingly attaining the divine nature through wholehearted and intelligent conformity to the divine will. Such a sublime relationship can exist only between personalities.

 

I know deepak has used this exact analogy word for word even lol.

 

I would also add this quote to Deepak. (1137.4) 103:6.14 When the philosophy of man leans heavily toward the world of matter, it becomes rationalistic or naturalistic. When philosophy inclines particularly toward the spiritual level, it becomes idealistic or even mystical.

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Being raised Christian, I take it very seriously that Jesus is a divine Savior and that we are ultimately either on his side or the devil's. Those in institutional religious authority have too often worked on the side of enemy rather than for Christ. The Urantia Book is unique among purported divine revelations in that it emphasizes a personal relationship with God instead of adherence to dogma or external authority. If more people read the Urantia Book and seriously followed its teachings, there would be a true spiritual renaissance based on personal faith rather than institutional authority. I honestly believe that if the Urantia Book is a genuine divine revelation, it's God's message to us that we're ready to spiritually progress beyond the confines of institutional religion and into the religion of the spirit.

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I do however have a growing "library" of UBs (laughs)

 

I've got a couple of leatherbound versions (one Fellowship, one Foundation) and a couple of others that I keep stocked to give as gifts to select people.

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A reason some new agers may not even like the Urantia Book is because it's full of specific information. Though the book, like the new age movement, emphasizes a personal relationship with the divine, it also makes some very specific claims. For example, one cannot believe in the absolute inerrancy of the Urantia Book and also believe in a new age concept like reincarnation.

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Reincarnation is New Age? But one can believe in the source of such an ancient teaching and the steps of distortion from truth to falsehood. The UB is a wonderful way far anyone to "contextualize" almost all religious concepts and beliefs and practices and explain the purpose, nature, and value of many diverse religious practices. But preconception and the prejudice to cling to them is an obstacle and a battle for every mind in every pursuit of truth. You cannot grasp the greater while clinging to the lesser....oh the monkey fist!! A demonstration of insanity and the mind at mischief. I believe it so it must be true, you disagree so you must be wrong and around and around we go.

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I think that with a belief as ancient and widespread as reincarnation, and with past life studies given as evidence to support it, I am open to the possibility of reincarnation. Then again, I believe the Urantia Book provides a reasonable explanation for the historical origin of belief in reincarnation and how the Thought Adjuster might be the source of past life memories. Hasidic Jews believe in reincarnation in the sense that some souls are sent back to this world after death in order to fulfill specific missions that they agree to with God for the betterment of the world and the development of their souls. This is similar to the Urantia Book's teaching that finaliters are sent to evolutionary worlds for the same purpose.

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Of course you may believe whatever you wish my brother, but only one type of creature reincarnates in our local universe, according to the authors, from Paper 46:7:

 

 

...Spornagia are the only creatures in all the universe of Nebadon who experience this or any other sort of reincarnation.... P.528 - 3

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Of course you may believe whatever you wish my brother, but only one type of creature reincarnates in our local universe, according to the authors, from Paper 46:7:

 

 

...Spornagia are the only creatures in all the universe of Nebadon who experience this or any other sort of reincarnation.... P.528 - 3

 

I don't believe in reincarnation in the traditional sense. Cultures throughout history believed that the soul evolves over many lifetimes before attaining perfection. What they didn't have is the cosmological frame of reference that the Urantia Book provides to show that it's into higher worlds, not into this world, that we are reborn.

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Actually I think you do believe in reincarnation in its original sense....as I believe in karma in its original sense, both of which became entangled by and within each other and transformed by priests and practitioners over thousands of years into the mumbo jumbo you call "traditional". So the traditional is a distortion of the originals: karma is the spiritual and mindal reciprocity laws of intentions and motives and the position of self therein while reincarnation is the reality of mortal to morontial progression and ascension from morontial to spirit. Both are about transformation and transcendence beyond the material but were twisted into pure mortal experiences with spiritual aspirations perhaps still but very planet-centric which reveals another original truth within....social and planetary progress are thought to derive by the karmic reincarnation cycle, or the same souls reliving, over and over, the material life to make both individual and social progress in this endless cycle. But all 3 teachings combine to urge humanity inward and upward and to transform our civilization by this personal progressive experience. We know better now, but the original truth still lives within these traditional falsehoods.

 

But we know that these teachings came originally in Dalmatia and the Garden and by Machevinta to illustrate basic concepts of cosmic citizenship and pilgrim ascension into the grand adventure. Herein lies the example of truth lost in the depths of time and by the loss of cosmic leadership on-planet to keep the originals from the distortions of human tradition, myth, and priesthoods.

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That's funny Howard!! Back in my spiritual"ism" days of seeking, it came to be a "tell" of channelers or mediums to so-called past lives that everyone seemed to be somebody of import, wealth, and/or fame. I always wondered why stable boys and farmers never seemed to come back? And then you meet different folks who shared past lives, yes, even the same character's lives it would appear. This old parlor game of who was I before I was me is quite comical, now, from here. Anyway, I'm not in any way questioning your position, just tangentalizing a little in humor and fellowship. ;)

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