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Hey Raymond you asked a lot of great questions and some that I have as well. This question is a topic I have been really exploring lately.

Is it that the Father shares His eternity attributes but unable to share His infinity other than being associative with the seven absolutes?

 

IMO There is another that the Father has distributed his Infinite nature to, and this being is God the Mother who is the Infinite Upholder. There are decending mothers just like there are decending Fathers, this is one clue that there is a God the Mother. Anyways this isn't really a topic I have a lot of proof for so I am just going to have to work this one out in time.

 

Also I would include the Ancient of Days as a personalization of God, but I don't believe they received any of his eternal infinite attributes. There are probably others to but I am not much help for this topic.

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Listen Scott, I know no more than you when it comes to these topics. I speak with no authority. But if I am correct you relate the Eternal Son to the Infiite Mother - at least that's how I take it. I agree with this. But eventuated beings to me do not share the eternal attributes of the Infinite One ( the I AM). To me only those Seven Absolutes of Infinity share there eternal attributes. Yea, eventuated beings have a historical starting point within eternity. Now, I see the infinite upholder as the power base eternalized by the Father of the Unqualified Absolute - which upholds. Are we in agreement? I see the creator Michaels as secondary creators in liason with the Creative Spirits and the Architects of the Master Universe. Are we in agreement? Revealed that Michaels are the beares of compassionate Love.

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Yea,

Listen Scott, I know no more than you when it comes to these topics. I speak with no authority. But if I am correct you relate the Eternal Son to the Infiite Mother - at least that's how I take it. I agree with this. But eventuated beings to me do not share the eternal attributes of the Infinite One ( the I AM). To me only those Seven Absolutes of Infinity share there eternal attributes. Yea, eventuated beings have a historical starting point within eternity. Now, I see the infinite upholder as the power base eternalized by the Father of the Unqualified Absolute - which upholds. Are we in agreement? I see the creator Michaels as secondary creators in liason with the Creative Spirits and the Architects of the Master Universe. Are we in agreement? Revealed that Michaels are the beares of compassionate Love.

 

But if I am correct you relate the Eternal Son to the Infiite Mother - at least that's how I take it. I agree that the 7 Absolutes share Gods Infinity.

 

No I don't think that the Eternal Son is God the Mother. I think God the Mother came from God the Father though, and that she is connected to the experiental aspect (Mother aspect) of the Eternal Son in some way. I don't think that the Ancient of Days share in gods infinity, but I do believe they are finite personalizations of God, even though they probably did have some "beginning". I agree about the Michaels though.

 

The Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit both IMO have an experiental-existental nature. IMO this experiental nature is in both of them and this experiental nature IMO has some relationship to God the Mother. The Infinite Spirit is not just the Infinite Spirit but she is also the Infinite Mother Spirit. The Infinite Mother Spirit is both existental (I AM Nature) and experiental (mother nature/ ALL ARE Nature). Anyways this is just a working model I have right now I am not set in stone on this.

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I believe that only an absolute can be both existential and experiential. I thought that Christ Michael was used as the reference as having the attributes as the Mother God - not the eternal Son? - but Christ as the nuturing one of his creation and creatures. The Infinite Spirit Person seemingly demonstrates Love in an impersonal manner - that is he/she loves us but with a firm hand - do not the angels lead us into troubulous ways for growth. What I'd like to see here is Bonita's or Rick's encyclopedic knowledge intervene here to make sure we stay in line with the revelations before we go further in this discussion. I do not trust my own recollections here. I do collect references on the study of personalities. I have numerous notes there. For me, I never wanted to be a library of knowledge - we have libraries i.e. Bonita and Rick :wub: Meant as Humor! Whatever aids my spiritual growth of my soul is my usually reading and reading the UB and this forum also aids in the spiritualization of my thoughts. I truly enjoy participating. I learn so much and am positive it has effected my growth - I can realize at times my attude towards things and people is gradully changing for the better. Nor are my thoughts set in stone. I will enjoy this discussion!

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What I'd like to see here is Bonita's or Rick's encyclopedic knowledge intervene here to make sure we stay in line with the revelations before we go further in this discussion.

 

Thanks Raymond, I'm flattered by your confidence. I'd love to contribute to this discussion but I honestly have no idea what you and Scott are talking about. I'm really sorry. sad-smiley-006.gif

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(75.10) 6:3.5 God is love, the Son is mercy. Mercy is applied love, the Father’s love in action in the person of

his Eternal Son. The love of this universal Son is likewise universal. As love is comprehended on a sex

planet, the love of God is more comparable to the love of a father, while the love of the Eternal Son is more

like the affection of a mother. Crude, indeed, are such illustrations, but I employ them in the hope of

conveying to the human mind the thought that there is a difference, not in divine content but in quality and

technique of expression, between the love of the Father and the love of the Son.

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@ Raymond I do not know if God the Mother has infinite traits, but I do not know that she is in the very least the Supreme. Here is what I do know about her.

 

(1279.7) 117:1.9 The Supreme is symmetrically inclusive. The First Source and Center is potential in the three great Absolutes, is actual in Paradise, in the Son, and in the Spirit; but the Supreme is both actual and potential, a being of personal supremacy and of almighty power, responsive alike to creature effort and Creator purpose; self-acting upon the universe and self-reactive to the sum total of the universe; and at one and the same time the supreme creator and the supreme creature. The Deity of Supremacy is thus expressive of the sum total of the entire finite.

 

1289.1) 117:6.8 All soul-evolving humans are literally the evolutionary sons of God the Father and God the Mother, the Supreme Being.

 

And I could add all the other quotes about the Supreme as well...

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I believe that only an absolute can be both existential and experiential. I thought that Christ Michael was used as the reference as having the attributes as the Mother God - not the eternal Son? - but Christ as the nuturing one of his creation and creatures. The Infinite Spirit Person seemingly demonstrates Love in an impersonal manner - that is he/she loves us but with a firm hand - do not the angels lead us into troubulous ways for growth. What I'd like to see here is Bonita's or Rick's encyclopedic knowledge intervene here to make sure we stay in line with the revelations before we go further in this discussion. I do not trust my own recollections here. I do collect references on the study of personalities. I have numerous notes there. For me, I never wanted to be a library of knowledge - we have libraries i.e. Bonita and Rick :wub: Meant as Humor! Whatever aids my spiritual growth of my soul is my usually reading and reading the UB and this forum also aids in the spiritualization of my thoughts. I truly enjoy participating. I learn so much and am positive it has effected my growth - I can realize at times my attude towards things and people is gradully changing for the better. Nor are my thoughts set in stone. I will enjoy this discussion!

 

Yikes, woulds't that it were so, Raymond! My encyclopedic knowledge comes from a marvelous UB CD called Folios, type in any word and get all the references thereto.

 

So what exactly is the question at this point? Haven't been following this thread closely.

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I'm trying to see what points of agreement there are between Scott and me - i.e maternal attributes of at this point the Supreme - which I believe we agree on, sharing of eternal attributes of the I AM,s nature and not His infinity - only by associativeness, which I think we agree on. In my mind 'origination' of the absolutes as questioned by Absonite led me ask whether manifestation /origination of these absolutes is infact possible since questioned whether how could the Trinity not questioned as not being eternal can preclude i.e. the I AM also defined as eternal. At least that is what I thought Scott was alluding to. Excuse me if I am wrong. Therefore in my view - I see that eternal attributes of the I AM - are eternal parts of the I AM and are only Infinite when in association with the Infinite One. In short, what I'm trying to say is that I AM is Infinite and 'origination' or manifestation of parts of the totality of UnQualified Infinity does not violate His Infinity nor His eternity. Such 'origination' apparently appears to be in violation of that which is 'eternal' - Trinity - and fully acceptable as Infinite and eternal - not violating this concept of Infinity and eternal. I hope this explains it?! Then, Scott - inferred that Mother God is also eternal and existential. That is where we were at. But, please let Scott re-iterate his own concepts and not through my interpretations.

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I am just trying to figure out what personalizatios can be considered God. I am not sure exactly how all of the parts fit together yet, I just have a working hypothesis of how they fit together. IMO the Trinity is one side of the Infinite One and the 1st source and center is the other side, and this Infinite One is IMO a main aspect of the I AM.

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The Infinite One is only mentioned in TUB four times. Two of those times are in reference to Brahman (99:4.3-4), one is in reference to God in general by Jesus (130:4.13) and the other one, the only one referring to the I AM, is below:

 

 

105:2.2 In following the chronological portrayal of the origins of reality, there must be a postulated theoretical moment of "first" volitional expression and "first" repercussional reaction within the I AM. In our attempts to portray the genesis and generation of reality, this stage may be conceived as the self-differentiation of The Infinite One from The Infinitude, but the postulation of this dual relationship must always be expanded to a triune conception by the recognition of the eternal continuum of The Infinity, the I AM.

 

So how exactly are you guys defining the Infinite One?

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The Infinite One is only mentioned in TUB four times. Two of those times are in reference to Brahman (99:4.3-4), one is in reference to God in general by Jesus (130:4.13) and the other one, the only one referring to the I AM, is below:

 

 

105:2.2 In following the chronological portrayal of the origins of reality, there must be a postulated theoretical moment of "first" volitional expression and "first" repercussional reaction within the I AM. In our attempts to portray the genesis and generation of reality, this stage may be conceived as the self-differentiation of The Infinite One from The Infinitude, but the postulation of this dual relationship must always be expanded to a triune conception by the recognition of the eternal continuum of The Infinity, the I AM.

 

So how exactly are you guys defining the Infinite One?

 

I'm viewing the Infinite One from the standpoint of He who is before existentials and after experientials. This is crucial to my understanding of that which can transcend al things spiritual, mindal and spiritual. Prexistential reality. Not just a hypothetical but a hypothetical Reality. Infinite reality. Unqualified and undifferntiated reality.

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I am just trying to figure out what personalizatios can be considered God. I am not sure exactly how all of the parts fit together yet, I just have a working hypothesis of how they fit together. IMO the Trinity is one side of the Infinite One and the 1st source and center is the other side, and this Infinite One is IMO a main aspect of the I AM.

 

I see the Infinite One focalizing His power in a point within Infinity, the First Source and Center, the I AM. I see Trinity as totality of the existential personalizations of this Deity. I see the three absolutes as the total potentiality of Trinity - the reverse side of the coin.

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So how exactly are you guys defining the Infinite One?
I was defining the Infinite One, in this sense "One as two and acting for two". The "One" being the Infinite One and the 2 being the 1st Source and Center and the Trinity. Basically IMO the 1SC and the Trinity are two sides of the same coin. So they are all "One".

 

I realize that the Infinite One seperated from the Infinitude in this hypothetical moment.

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The following section may shed light on the FSC "Self-Distribution" within the elements of the Trinity.

The first quote (10:1.1) has been used in this topic but if one reads the section its content may pose query into why would one need a Trinity.

 

1. Self-Distribution of the First Source and Center

 

(108.4) 10:1.1 It would seem that the Father, back in eternity, inaugurated a policy of profound self-distribution. There is inherent in the selfless, loving, and lovable nature of the Universal Father something which causes him to reserve to himself the exercise of only those powers and that authority which he apparently finds it impossible to delegate or to bestow.

 

(108.5) 10:1.2 The Universal Father all along has divested himself of every part of himself that was bestowable on any other Creator or creature. He has delegated to his divine Sons and their associated intelligences every power and all authority that could be delegated. He has actually transferred to his Sovereign Sons, in their respective universes, every prerogative of administrative authority that was transferable. In the affairs of a local universe, he has made each Sovereign Creator Son just as perfect, competent, and authoritative as is the Eternal Son in the original and central universe. He has given away, actually bestowed, with the dignity and sanctity of personality possession, all of himself and all of his attributes, everything he possibly could divest himself of, in every way, in every age, in every place, and to every person, and in every universe except that of his central indwelling.

 

(109.1) 10:1.3 Divine personality is not self-centered; self-distribution and sharing of personality characterize divine freewill selfhood. Creatures crave association with other personal creatures; Creators are moved to share divinity with their universe children; the personality of the Infinite is disclosed as the Universal Father, who shares reality of being and equality of self with two co-ordinate personalities, the Eternal Son and the Conjoint Actor.

 

(109.2) 10:1.4 For knowledge concerning the Father’s personality and divine attributes we will always be dependent on the revelations of the Eternal Son, for when the conjoint act of creation was effected, when the Third Person of Deity sprang into personality existence and executed the combined concepts of his divine parents, the Father ceased to exist as the unqualified personality. With the coming into being of the Conjoint Actor and the materialization of the central core of creation, certain eternal changes took place. God gave himself as an absolute personality to his Eternal Son. Thus does the Father bestow the “personality of infinity” upon his only-begotten Son, while they both bestow the “conjoint personality” of their eternal union upon the Infinite Spirit.

 

(109.3) 10:1.5 For these and other reasons beyond the concept of the finite mind, it is exceedingly difficult for the human creature to comprehend God’s infinite father-personality except as it is universally revealed in the Eternal Son and, with the Son, is universally active in the Infinite Spirit.

 

(109.4) 10:1.6 Since the Paradise Sons of God visit the evolutionary worlds and sometimes even there dwell in the likeness of mortal flesh, and since these bestowals make it possible for mortal man actually to know something of the nature and character of divine personality, therefore must the creatures of the planetary spheres look to the bestowals of these Paradise Sons for reliable and trustworthy information regarding the Father, the Son, and the Spirit.

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When I directly virtualize (think about) The I AM, what I get is an infinitely complex and iterating Fractal. I cannot do that for too long, because the reiterating infinite self-similarity is just too intense. Attempting to grasp infinite detail like that causes an inevitable mental shut down. Sure, I've experimented with trying to sustain it, but doesn't really result with anything other than severe mental exhaustion and cessation of thought about it. And, in the end, no real amazing insights result - other than affirming acknowledgement that The I AM is. And after a while of going round and round with that, I get the urge from within to move on to the next level, instead of just oooing and aaaaahing while doing the equivalent of banging my head against a wall that I can't get through ... yet.

 

When I switch to discerning The I AM as a basic situation, then The Infinite appears to me as Entity and Environment.

 

At this basic level, the situation seems very simple. The Entity appears as a sphere that is surrounded by The Environment. The Environment is "empty" in the foreground, save for The Entity. Switching focus to the background is rather disconcerting, because if I strive too hard to make anything out of that I end up shifting back to that infinitely complex Fractal I AMness and risk another shut down.

 

The Entity always radiates a profound affection - which is such an intense understatement that it's absurd. It akin to saying that a supernova is like an igniting match. Ridiculous - yet parallel nonetheless in a way surprisingly works just enough to get the point across. And The Entity interacts with The Environment in a way that never fails to fascinate me, and cause me to realize that I'm considering the Infinite situation from "far out". The fascination almost is like a kind of gravity that encourages me to zoom in further on the details of the situation - but let me stop right here and point out that:

 

 

The Entity - The Infinite Entity - is The Infinite One.

The Environment - The Infinite Environment - is The Infinitude.

 

And that fascinating interactive connectivity involving them both is Infinity.

 

 

When I zoom in further, the details that are always there spring out. Suddenly, I see the Deity Absolute, the three mutually concentric deific people, of The Infinite One. Part of The Environment abruptly resolves as the Unqualified Absolute, surrounding the Deity Absolute. And the interface of those two - their cynosure - is the Universal Absolute.

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The mental image I use for the I highest reality is a never ending horizon that runs along an ellipse. And I picture gods hand extending in different infinite directions along this eternal ellipse.

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The u.b also states that its only a hypothetical concept that the Father had this solitary existence. So if he did have this solitary existence it would have been before reality began. There would not have been eternity. There would have just been the all encompassing Infinite God.

 

 

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Good point.

I believe that all of the attributes that characterize (not past tense) God prior to him becoming the father of the Eternal Son, he still is and always will be. In the middle of all creation, - (including things that we can know as facts) - past present and future, God retains all of his attributes including a solitary existence and always will.

Can we imagine an Eternal Son that is more eternal than his Father? The Son came upon the scene and there are no facts associated with this event.

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Yea Nelson I believe that the unity of this God the Infinite is conserved. I do think that the Father gave up some of his incredible attributes and gave them to the 2nd and 3rd person of deity. But I also believe he held onto much of this I Am nature. I agree about time. In this theoretical original reality there wouldn't have even been eternity or anything at all. There would just be this one being and no other fact. Just one all encompassing fact of God.

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It may help, in defining or understanding the Paradise Trinity, to look at the UB’s grouping and or function of their ten component parts. The last three of ten may help understand the “I AM.”

 

The following UB quote lead me to think that the “I AM” had different functions or associations outside of Paradise, and why or how the “I AM” can be presented as being present, everywhere.

 

 

(218.2) 19:4.4 Whenever and wherever a Universal Censor is present, then and there is the judgment of Deity. And since the Censors always render their verdicts in liaison with Perfectors of Wisdom and Divine Counselors, such decisions embrace the united wisdom, counsel, and judgment of the Paradise Trinity. In this juridical trio the Perfector of Wisdom would be the “I was,” the Divine Counselor the “I will be,” but the Universal Censor is always “I am.”

 

(114.6) 10:6.5 This group of Trinity Sons embraces the following personalities:

 

(114.7)
10:6.6
1. Trinitized Secrets of Supremacy.

(114.8)
10:6.7
2. Eternals of Days.

(114.9)
10:6.8
3. Ancients of Days.

(114.10)
10:6.9
4. Perfections of Days.

(114.11)
10:6.10
5. Recents of Days.

(114.12)
10:6.11
6. Unions of Days.

(114.13)
10:6.12
7. Faithfuls of Days.

(114.14)
10:6.13
8. Perfectors of Wisdom.
[(“I was”) “finite past”]

(114.15)
10:6.14
9. Divine Counselors.
[(“I will be”) “infinite future”]

(114.16)
10:6.15
10. Universal Censors.
[(“I am”) “progressive present”, or when combined with the “I was” and the “I will be”, the virtual presence of the “I AM”]

 

As I imply in the last bracketed descriptor, one can associate that with the following “For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst.” Matthew 18:20. Or, as I remember this phrase, “where two or more of you come together in My name, there am I also.”

 

The following UB narrations define or explain the first seven of the Trinity Sons.

 

(114.17) 10:6.16 We are the children of the three Paradise Deities functioning as the Trinity, for I chance to belong to the tenth order of this group, the Universal Censors. These orders are not representative of the attitude of the Trinity in a universal sense; they represent this collective attitude of Deity only in the domains of executive judgment — justice. They were specifically designed by the Trinity for the precise work to which they are assigned, and they represent the Trinity only in those functions for which they were personalized.

 

(207.1) 18:0.1 SUPREME Trinity Personalities are all created for specific service. They are designed by the divine Trinity for the fulfillment of certain specific duties, and they are qualified to serve with perfection of technique and finality of devotion. There are seven orders of the Supreme Trinity Personalities:

 

(207.2)
18:0.2
1. Trinitized Secrets of Supremacy.

(207.3)
18:0.3
2. Eternals of Days.

(207.4)
18:0.4
3. Ancients of Days.

(207.5)
18:0.5
4. Perfections of Days.

(207.6)
18:0.6
5. Recents of Days.

(207.7)
18:0.7
6. Unions of Days.

(207.8)
18:0.8
7. Faithfuls of Days.

 

(207.9) 18:0.9 These beings of administrative perfection are of definite and final numbers. Their creation is a past event; no more are being personalized.

 

1. The Trinitized Secrets of Supremacy

 

(207.12) 18:1.1 There are seven worlds in the innermost circuit of the Paradise satellites, and each of these exalted worlds is presided over by a corps of ten Trinitized Secrets of Supremacy. They are not creators, but they are supreme and ultimate administrators. The conduct of the affairs of these seven fraternal spheres is wholly committed to this corps of seventy supreme directors. Though the offspring of the Trinity supervise these seven sacred spheres nearest Paradise, this group of worlds is universally known as the personal circuit of the Universal Father.

 

(208.1) 18:1.2 The Trinitized Secrets of Supremacy function in groups of ten as co-ordinate and joint directors of their respective spheres, but they also function individually in particular fields of responsibility. The work of each of these special worlds is divided into seven major departments, and one of these co-ordinate rulers presides over each such division of specialized activities. The remaining three act as the personal representatives of triune Deity in relation to the other seven, one representing the Father, one the Son, and one the Spirit.

 

(208.2) 18:1.3 Although there is a definite class resemblance which typifies the Trinitized Secrets of Supremacy, they also disclose seven distinct group characteristics. The ten supreme directors of Divinington affairs are reflective of the personal character and nature of the Universal Father; and so it is with each of these seven spheres: Each group of ten resembles that Deity or Deity association which is characteristic of their domain. The ten directors who rule Ascendington are reflective of the combined nature of the Father, Son, and Spirit.

 

(208.3) 18:1.4 I can reveal very little about the work of these high personalities on the seven sacred worlds of the Father, for they are truly the Secrets of Supremacy. There are no arbitrary secrets associated with the approach to the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, or the Infinite Spirit. The Deities are an open book to all who attain divine perfection, but all the Secrets of Supremacy can never be fully attained. Always will we be unable fully to penetrate the realms containing the personality secrets of Deity association with the sevenfold grouping of created beings.

 

(208.4) 18:1.5 Since the work of these supreme directors has to do with the intimate and personal contact of the Deities with these seven basic groupings of universe beings when domiciled on these seven special worlds or while functioning throughout the grand universe, it is fitting that these very personal relations and extraordinary contacts should be held sacredly secret. The Paradise Creators respect the privacy and sanctity of personality even in their lowly creatures. And this is true both of individuals and of the various separate orders of personalities.

 

(208.5) 18:1.6 To beings of even high universe attainment these secret worlds ever remain a test of loyalty. It is given us fully and personally to know the eternal Gods, freely to know their characters of divinity and perfection, but it is not granted us fully to penetrate all of the personal relations of the Paradise Rulers with all of their creature beings.

 

2. The Eternals of Days

 

(208.6) 18:2.1 Each of the billion worlds of Havona is directed by a Supreme Trinity Personality. These rulers are known as the Eternals of Days, and they number exactly one billion, one for each of the Havona spheres. They are the offspring of the Paradise Trinity, but like the Secrets of Supremacy there are no records of their origin. Forever have these two groups of all-wise fathers ruled their exquisite worlds of the Paradise-Havona system, and they function without rotation or reassignment.

 

(208.7) 18:2.2 The Eternals of Days are visible to all will creatures dwelling in their domains. They preside over the regular planetary conclaves. Periodically, and by rotation, they visit the headquarters spheres of the seven superuniverses. They are close of kin to, and are the divine equals of, the Ancients of Days, who preside over the destinies of the seven supergovernments. When an Eternal of Days is absent from his sphere, his world is directed by a Trinity Teacher Son.

 

(209.1) 18:2.3 Except for the established orders of life, such as the Havona natives and other living creatures of the central universe, the resident Eternals of Days have developed their respective spheres entirely in accordance with their own personal ideas and ideals. They visit each other’s planets, but they do not copy or imitate; they are always and wholly original.

 

(209.2) 18:2.4 The architecture, natural embellishment, morontia structures, and spirit creations are exclusive and unique on each sphere. Every world is a place of everlasting beauty and is wholly unlike any other world in the central universe. And you will each spend a longer or shorter time on each of these unique and thrilling spheres on your way inward through Havona to Paradise. It is natural, on your world, to speak of Paradise as upward, but it would be more correct to refer to the divine goal of ascension as inward.

 

3. The Ancients of Days

 

(209.3) 18:3.1 When mortals of time graduate from the training worlds surrounding the headquarters of a local universe and are advanced to the educational spheres of their superuniverse, they have progressed in spiritual development to that point where they are able to recognize and communicate with the high spiritual rulers and directors of these advanced realms, including the Ancients of Days.

 

(209.4) 18:3.2 The Ancients of Days are all basically identical; they disclose the combined character and unified nature of the Trinity. They possess individuality and are in personality diverse, but they do not differ from each other as do the Seven Master Spirits. They provide the uniform directorship of the otherwise differing seven superuniverses, each of which is a distinct, segregated, and unique creation. The Seven Master Spirits are unlike in nature and attributes, but the Ancients of Days, the personal rulers of the superuniverses, are all uniform and superperfect offspring of the Paradise Trinity.

 

(209.5) 18:3.3 The Seven Master Spirits on high determine the nature of their respective superuniverses, but the Ancients of Days dictate the administration of these same superuniverses. They superimpose administrative uniformity on creative diversity and insure the harmony of the whole in the face of the underlying creational differences of the seven segmental groupings of the grand universe.

 

(209.6) 18:3.4 The Ancients of Days were all trinitized at the same time. They represent the beginning of the personality records of the universe of universes, hence their name — Ancients of Days. When you reach Paradise and search the written records of the beginning of things, you will find that the first entry appearing in the personality section is the recital of the trinitization of these twenty-one Ancients of Days.

 

(209.7) 18:3.5 These high beings always govern in groups of three. There are many phases of activity in which they work as individuals, still others in which any two can function, but in the higher spheres of their administration they must act jointly. They never personally leave their residential worlds, but then they do not have to, for these worlds are the superuniverse focal points of the far-flung reflectivity system.

 

(209.8) 18:3.6 The personal abodes of each trio of the Ancients of Days are located at the point of spiritual polarity on their headquarters sphere. Such a sphere is divided into seventy administrative sectors and has seventy divisional capitals in which the Ancients of Days reside from time to time.

 

(210.1) 18:3.7 In power, scope of authority, and extent of jurisdiction the Ancients of Days are the most powerful and mighty of any of the direct rulers of the time-space creations. In all the vast universe of universes they alone are invested with the high powers of final executive judgment concerning the eternal extinction of will creatures. And all three Ancients of Days must participate in the final decrees of the supreme tribunal of a superuniverse.

 

(210.2) 18:3.8 Aside from the Deities and their Paradise associates, the Ancients of Days are the most perfect, most versatile, and the most divinely endowed rulers in all time-space existence. Apparently they are the supreme rulers of the superuniverses; but they have not experientially earned this right to rule and are therefore destined sometime to be superseded by the Supreme Being, an experiential sovereign, whose vicegerents they will undoubtedly become.

 

(210.3) 18:3.9 The Supreme Being is achieving the sovereignty of the seven superuniverses by experiential service just as a Creator Son experientially earns the sovereignty of his local universe. But during the present age of the unfinished evolution of the Supreme, the Ancients of Days provide the co-ordinated and perfect administrative overcontrol of the evolving universes of time and space. And the wisdom of originality and the initiative of individuality characterize all the decrees and rulings of the Ancients of Days.

 

4. The Perfections of Days

 

(210.4) 18:4.1 There are just two hundred and ten Perfections of Days, and they preside over the governments of the ten major sectors of each superuniverse. They were trinitized for the special work of assisting the superuniverse directors, and they rule as the immediate and personal vicegerents of the Ancients of Days.

 

(210.5) 18:4.2 Three Perfections of Days are assigned to each major sector capital, but unlike the Ancients of Days, it is not necessary that all three be present at all times. From time to time one of this trio may absent himself to confer in person with the Ancients of Days concerning the welfare of his realm.

 

(210.6) 18:4.3 These triune rulers of the major sectors are peculiarly perfect in the mastery of administrative details, hence their name — Perfections of Days. In recording the names of these beings of the spiritual world, we are confronted with the problem of translating into your tongue, and very often it is exceedingly difficult to render a satisfactory translation. We dislike to use arbitrary designations which would be meaningless to you; hence we often find it difficult to choose a suitable name, one which will be clear to you and at the same time be somewhat representative of the original.

 

(210.7) 18:4.4 The Perfections of Days have a moderate-sized corps of Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”], Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”], and Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”] attached to their governments. They have still larger numbers of Mighty Messengers, Those High in Authority, and Those without Name and Number. But much of the routine work of major sector affairs is carried on by the Celestial Guardians and the High Son Assistants. These two groups are drawn from among the trinitized offspring of either Paradise-Havona personalities or glorified mortal finaliters. Certain of these two orders of creature-trinitized beings are retrinitized by the Paradise Deities and then are dispatched to assist in the administration of the superuniverse governments.

 

(211.1) 18:4.5 Most of the Celestial Guardians and the High Son Assistants are assigned to the service of the major and the minor sectors, but the Trinitized Custodians (Trinity-embraced seraphim and midwayers) are the officers of the courts of all three divisions, functioning in the tribunals of the Ancients of Days, the Perfections of Days, and the Recents of Days. The Trinitized Ambassadors (Trinity-embraced ascendant mortals of Son- or Spirit-fused nature) may be encountered anywhere in a superuniverse, but the majority are in the service of the minor sectors.

 

(211.2) 18:4.6 Before the times of the full unfolding of the governmental scheme of the seven superuniverses, practically all administrators of the various divisions of these governments, excepting the Ancients of Days, served apprenticeships of varying duration under the Eternals of Days on the various worlds of the perfect Havona universe. The later trinitized beings likewise passed through a season of training under the Eternals of Days before they were attached to the service of the Ancients of Days, the Perfections of Days, and the Recents of Days. They are all seasoned, tried, and experienced administrators.

 

(211.3) 18:4.7 You will early see the Perfections of Days when you advance to the headquarters of Splandon after your sojourn on the worlds of your minor sector, for these exalted rulers are closely associated with the seventy major sector worlds of higher training for the ascendant creatures of time. The Perfections of Days, in person, administer the group pledges to the ascending graduates of the major sector schools.

 

(211.4) 18:4.8 The work of the pilgrims of time on the worlds surrounding a major sector headquarters is chiefly of an intellectual nature in contrast with the more physical and material character of the training on the seven educational spheres of a minor sector and with the spiritual undertakings on the four hundred ninety university worlds of a superuniverse headquarters.

 

(211.5) 18:4.9 Although you are entered only upon the registry of the major sector of Splandon, which embraces the local universe of your origin, you will have to pass through every one of the ten major divisions of our superuniverse. You will see all thirty of the Orvonton Perfections of Days before you reach Uversa.

 

5. The Recents of Days

 

(211.6) 18:5.1 The Recents of Days are the youngest of the supreme directors of the superuniverses; in groups of three they preside over the affairs of the minor sectors. In nature they are co-ordinate with the Perfections of Days, but in administrative authority they are subordinate. There are just twenty-one thousand of these personally glorious and divinely efficient Trinity personalities. They were created simultaneously, and together they passed through their Havona training under the Eternals of Days.

 

(211.7) 18:5.2 The Recents of Days have a corps of associates and assistants similar to that of the Perfections of Days. In addition they have assigned to them enormous numbers of the various subordinate orders of celestial beings. In the administration of the minor sectors they utilize large numbers of the resident ascending mortals, the personnel of the various courtesy colonies, and the various groups originating in the Infinite Spirit.

 

(211.8) 18:5.3 The governments of the minor sectors are very largely, though not exclusively, concerned with the great physical problems of the superuniverses. The minor sector spheres are the headquarters of the Master Physical Controllers. On these worlds ascending mortals carry on studies and experiments having to do with an examination of the activities of the third order of the Supreme Power Centers and of all seven orders of the Master Physical Controllers.

 

(212.1) 18:5.4 Since the regime of a minor sector is so extensively concerned with physical problems, its three Recents of Days are seldom together on the capital sphere. Most of the time one is away in conference with the Perfections of Days of the supervising major sector or absent while representing the Ancients of Days at the Paradise conclaves of the high Trinity-origin beings. They alternate with the Perfections of Days in representing the Ancients of Days at the supreme councils on Paradise. Meanwhile, another Recent of Days may be away on a tour of inspection of the headquarters worlds of the local universes belonging to his jurisdiction. But at least one of these rulers always remains on duty at the headquarters of a minor sector.

 

(212.2) 18:5.5 You will all sometime know the three Recents of Days in charge of Ensa, your minor sector, since you must pass through their hands on your way inward to the training worlds of the major sectors. In ascending to Uversa, you will pass through only one group of minor sector training spheres.

 

6. The Unions of Days

 

(212.3) 18:6.1 The Trinity personalities of the order of “Days” do not function in an administrative capacity below the level of the superuniverse governments. In the evolving local universes they act only as counselors and advisers. The Unions of Days are a group of liaison personalities accredited by the Paradise Trinity to the dual rulers of the local universes. Each organized and inhabited local universe has assigned to it one of these Paradise counselors, who acts as the representative of the Trinity, and in some respects, of the Universal Father, to the local creation.

 

(212.4) 18:6.2 There are seven hundred thousand of these beings in existence, though they have not all been commissioned. The reserve corps of the Unions of Days functions on Paradise as the Supreme Council of Universe Adjustments.

 

(212.5) 18:6.3 In a special manner these Trinity observers co-ordinate the administrative activities of all branches of the universal government, from those of the local universes up through the sector governments to those of the superuniverse, hence their name — Unions of Days. They make a threefold report to their superiors: They report pertinent data of a physical and semi-intellectual nature to the Recents of Days of their minor sector; they report intellectual and quasi-spiritual happenings to the Perfections of Days of their major sector; they report spiritual and semiparadisiacal matters to the Ancients of Days at the capital of their superuniverse.

 

(212.6) 18:6.4 Since they are Trinity-origin beings, all of the Paradise circuits are available to them for intercommunication, and thus are they always in touch with each other and with all other required personalities up to the supreme councils of Paradise.

 

(212.7) 18:6.5 A Union of Days is not organically connected with the government of the local universe of his assignment. Aside from his duties as an observer, he acts only at the request of the local authorities. He is an ex officio member of all primary councils and all important conclaves of the local creation, but he does not participate in the technical consideration of administrative problems.

 

(213.1) 18:6.6 When a local universe is settled in light and life, its glorified beings associate freely with the Union of Days, who then functions in an enlarged capacity in such a realm of evolutionary perfection. But he is still primarily a Trinity ambassador and Paradise counselor.

 

(213.2) 18:6.7 A local universe is directly ruled by a divine Son of dual Deity origin, but he has constantly by his side a Paradise brother, a Trinity-origin personality. In the event of the temporary absence of a Creator Son from the headquarters of his local universe, the acting rulers are largely guided in their major decisions by the counsel of their Union of Days.

 

7. The Faithfuls of Days

 

(213.3) 18:7.1 These high Trinity-origin personalities are the Paradise advisers to the rulers of the one hundred constellations in each local universe. There are seventy million Faithfuls of Days, and like the Unions of Days, not all are in service. Their Paradise reserve corps is the Advisory Commission of Interuniverse Ethics and Self-government. Faithfuls of Days rotate in service in accordance with the rulings of the supreme council of their reserve corps.

 

(213.4) 18:7.2 All that a Union of Days is to a Creator Son of a local universe, the Faithfuls of Days are to the Vorondadek Sons who rule the constellations of that local creation. They are supremely devoted and divinely faithful to the welfare of their constellations of assignment, hence the name — Faithfuls of Days. They act only as counselors; never do they participate in administrative activities except upon the invitation of the constellation authorities. Neither are they directly concerned in the educational ministry to the pilgrims of ascension on the architectural training spheres surrounding a constellation headquarters. All such undertakings are under the supervision of the Vorondadek Sons.

 

(213.5) 18:7.3 All Faithfuls of Days functioning in the constellations of a local universe are under the jurisdiction of, and report directly to, the Union of Days. They do not have a far-flung system of intercommunication, being ordinarily self-limited to an interassociation within the limits of a local universe. Any Faithful of Days on duty in Nebadon can and does communicate with all others of his order on duty in this local universe.

 

(213.6) 18:7.4 Like the Union of Days on a universe headquarters, the Faithfuls of Days maintain their personal residences on the constellation capitals separate from those of the administrative directors of such realms. Their abodes are indeed modest in comparison with the homes of the Vorondadek rulers of the constellations.

 

(213.7) 18:7.5 The Faithfuls of Days are the last link in the long administrative-advisory chain which reaches from the sacred spheres of the Universal Father near the center of all things to the primary divisions of the local universes. The Trinity-origin regime stops with the constellations; no such Paradise advisers are permanently situated on their component systems or on the inhabited worlds. These latter administrative units are wholly under the jurisdiction of beings native to the local universes.

 

(213.8) 18:7.6 [Presented by a Divine Counselor of Uversa.]

 

 

The following UB narrations define or explain the three remaining Trinity Sons from the grouping above. It is also, not unusual, that Jesus was referred to as “Teacher.”

 

The Co-ordinate Trinity-Origin Beings

 

(214.1) 19:0.1 THIS Paradise group, designated the Co-ordinate Trinity-origin Beings, embraces the Trinity Teacher Sons, also classed among the Paradise Sons of God, three groups of high superuniverse administrators, and the somewhat impersonal category of the Inspired Trinity Spirits. Even the Havona natives may properly be included in this classification of Trinity personalities along with numerous groups of beings resident on Paradise. Those Trinity-origin beings to be considered in this discussion are:

 

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1. Trinity Teacher Sons.

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2. Perfectors of Wisdom.
[(“I was”) “past”]

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3. Divine Counselors.
[(“I will be”) “future”]

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4. Universal Censors.
[(“I am”) “present”]

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5. Inspired Trinity Spirits.

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6. Havona Natives.

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7. Paradise Citizens.

 

(214.9) 19:0.9 Excepting the Trinity Teacher Sons and possibly the Inspired Trinity Spirits, these groups are of definite numbers; their creation is a finished and past event.

 

1. The Trinity Teacher Sons

 

(214.10) 19:1.1 Of all the high orders of celestial personalities revealed to you, the Trinity Teacher Sons alone act in a dual capacity. By origin of Trinity nature, in function they are almost wholly devoted to the services of divine sonship. They are the liaison beings who bridge the universe gulf between Trinity- and dual-origin personalities.

 

(214.11) 19:1.2 While the Stationary Sons of the Trinity are of completed numbers, the Teacher Sons are constantly increasing. What the final number of Teacher Sons will be I do not know. I can, however, state that, at the last periodic report to Uversa, the Paradise records indicated 21,001,624,821 of these Sons in service.

 

(214.12) 19:1.3 These beings are the only group of the Sons of God revealed to you whose origin is in the Paradise Trinity. They range the central and superuniverses, and an enormous corps is assigned to each local universe. They also serve the individual planets as do the other Paradise Sons of God. Since the scheme of the grand universe is not fully developed, large numbers of Teacher Sons are held in the reserves on Paradise, and they volunteer for emergency duty and unusual service in all divisions of the grand universe, on the lone worlds of space, in the local and superuniverses, and on the worlds of Havona. They also function on Paradise, but it will be more helpful to postpone their detailed consideration until we come to the discussion of the Paradise Sons of God.

 

(215.1) 19:1.4 In this connection, however, it may be noted that Teacher Sons are the supreme co-ordinating personalities of Trinity origin. In such a far-flung universe of universes there is always great danger of succumbing to the error of the circumscribed viewpoint, to the evil inherent in a segmentalized conception of reality and divinity.

 

(215.2) 19:1.5 For example: The human mind would ordinarily crave to approach the cosmic philosophy portrayed in these revelations by proceeding from the simple and the finite to the complex and the infinite, from human origins to divine destinies. But that path does not lead to spiritual wisdom. Such a procedure is the easiest path to a certain form of genetic knowledge, but at best it can only reveal man’s origin; it reveals little or nothing about his divine destiny.

 

(215.3) 19:1.6 Even in the study of man’s biologic evolution on Urantia, there are grave objections to the exclusive historic approach to his present-day status and his current problems. The true perspective of any reality problem — human or divine, terrestrial or cosmic — can be had only by the full and unprejudiced study and correlation of three phases of universe reality: origin, history, and destiny. The proper understanding of these three experiential realities affords the basis for a wise estimate of the current status.

 

(215.4) 19:1.7 When the human mind undertakes to follow the philosophic technique of starting from the lower to approach the higher, whether in biology or theology, it is always in danger of committing four errors of reasoning:

 

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1. It may utterly fail to perceive the final and completed evolutionary goal of either personal attainment or cosmic destiny.

 

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2. It may commit the supreme philosophical blunder by oversimplifying cosmic evolutionary (experiential) reality, thus leading to the distortion of facts, to the perversion of truth, and to the misconception of destinies.

 

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3. The study of causation is the perusal of history. But the knowledge of
how
a being becomes does not necessarily provide an intelligent understanding of the present status and true character of such a being.

 

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4. History alone fails adequately to reveal future development — destiny. Finite origins are helpful, but only divine causes reveal final effects. Eternal ends are not shown in time beginnings. The present can be truly interpreted only in the light of the correlated past and future.

 

(215.9) 19:1.12 Therefore, because of these and for still other reasons, do we employ the technique of approaching man and his planetary problems by embarkation on the time-space journey from the infinite, eternal, and divine Paradise Source and Center of all personality reality and all cosmic existence.

 

2. The Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”]

 

(215.10) 19:2.1 The Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] are a specialized creation of the Paradise Trinity designed to personify the wisdom of divinity in the superuniverses. There are exactly seven billion of these beings in existence, and one billion are assigned to each of the seven superuniverses.

 

(215.11) 19:2.2 In common with their co-ordinates, the Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”] and the Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”], the Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] passed through the wisdom of Paradise, of Havona, and except for Divinington, of the Father’s Paradise spheres. After these experiences the Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] were permanently assigned to the service of the Ancients of Days. They serve neither on Paradise nor on the worlds of the Paradise-Havona circuits; they are wholly occupied with the administration of the superuniverse governments.

 

(216.1) 19:2.3 Wherever and whenever a Perfector of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] functions, there and then divine wisdom functions. There is actuality of presence and perfection of manifestation in the knowledge and wisdom represented in the doings of these mighty and majestic personalities. They do not reflect the wisdom of the Paradise Trinity; they are that wisdom. They are the sources of wisdom for all teachers in the application of universe knowledge; they are the fountains of discretion and the wellsprings of discrimination to the institutions of learning and discernment in all universes.

 

(216.2) 19:2.4 Wisdom is twofold in origin, being derived from the perfection of divine insight inherent in perfect beings and from the personal experience acquired by evolutionary creatures. The Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] are the divine wisdom of the Paradise perfection of Deity insight. Their administrative associates on Uversa, the Mighty Messengers, Those without Name and Number, and Those High in Authority, when acting together, are the universe wisdom of experience. A divine being can have perfection of divine knowledge. An evolutionary mortal can sometime attain perfection of ascendant knowledge, but neither of these beings alone exhausts the potentials of all possible wisdom. Accordingly, whenever in the conduct of the superuniverse it is desired to achieve the maximum of administrative wisdom, these perfectors of the wisdom of divine insight are always associated with those ascendant personalities who have come up to the high responsibilities of superuniverse authority through the experiential tribulations of evolutionary progression.

 

(216.3) 19:2.5 The Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) ‘past”] will always require this complement of experiential wisdom for the completion of their administrative sagacity. But it has been postulated that a high and hitherto unattained level of wisdom may possibly be achieved by the Paradise finaliters after they are sometime inducted into the seventh stage of spirit existence. If this inference is correct, then would such perfected beings of evolutionary ascent undoubtedly become the most effective universe administrators ever to be known in all creation. I believe that such is the high destiny of finaliters.

 

(216.4) 19:2.6 The versatility of the Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] enables them to participate in practically all of the celestial services of the ascendant creatures. The Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] and my order of personality, the Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) "future"], together with the Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”], constitute the highest orders of beings who may and do engage in the work of revealing truth to the individual planets and systems, whether in their earlier epochs or when settled in light and life. From time to time we all make contact with the service of the ascending mortals, from an initial-life planet on up through a local universe and the superuniverse, particularly the latter.

 

3. The Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”]

 

(216.5) 19:3.1 These Trinity-origin beings are the counsel of Deity to the realms of the seven superuniverses. They are not reflective of the divine counsel of the Trinity; they are that counsel. There are twenty-one billion Counselors in service, and three billion are assigned to each superuniverse.

 

(217.1) 19:3.2 Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”] are the associates and equals of the Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”] and the Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”], from one to seven Counselors being associated with each of these latter personalities. All three orders participate in the government of the Ancients of Days, including major and minor sectors, in the local universes and constellations, and in the councils of the local system sovereigns.

 

(217.2) 19:3.3 We act as individuals, as I do in inditing this statement, but we also function as a trio whenever the occasion requires. When we act in an executive capacity, always there are associated together a Perfector of Wisdom [(“I was”) ‘past”], a Universal Censor [(“I am”) “present”], and from one to seven Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”].

 

(217.3) 19:3.4 One Perfector of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”], seven Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”], and one Universal Censor [(“I am”) “present”] constitute a tribunal of Trinity divinity, the highest mobile advisory body in the universes of time and space. Such a group of nine is known either as a fact-finding or as a truth-revealing tribunal, and when it sits in judgment upon a problem and renders a decision, it is just as if an Ancient of Days had adjudicated the matter, for in all the annals of the superuniverses such a verdict has never been reversed by the Ancients of Days.

 

(217.4) 19:3.5 When the three Ancients of Days function, the Paradise Trinity functions. When the tribunal of nine arrives at a decision following its united deliberations, to all intents and purposes the Ancients of Days have spoken. And it is in this manner that the Paradise Rulers make personal contact, in administrative matters and governmental regulation, with the individual worlds, systems, and universes.

 

(217.5) 19:3.6 Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”] are the perfection of the divine counsel of the Paradise Trinity. We represent, in fact are, the counsel of perfection. When we are supplemented by the experiential counsel of our associates, the perfected and Trinity-embraced beings of evolutionary ascent, our combined conclusions are not only complete but replete. When our united counsel has been associated, adjudicated, confirmed, and promulgated by a Universal Censor [(“I am”) “present”], it is very probable that it approaches the threshold of universal totality. Such verdicts represent the nearest possible approach to the absolute attitude of Deity within the time-space limits of the situation involved and the problem concerned.

 

(217.6) 19:3.7 Seven Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”] in liaison with a trinitized evolutionary trio — a Mighty Messenger, One High in Authority, and One without Name and Number — represent the nearest superuniverse approach to the union of the human viewpoint and the divine attitude on near-paradisiacal levels of spiritual meanings and reality values. Such close approximation of the united cosmic attitudes of the creature and the Creator is only surpassed in the Paradise bestowal Sons, who are, in every phase of personality experience, God and man.

 

4. The Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”]

 

(217.7) 19:4.1 There are exactly eight billion Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”] in existence. These unique beings are the judgment of Deity. They are not merely reflective of the decisions of perfection; they are the judgment of the Paradise Trinity. Even the Ancients of Days do not sit in judgment except in association with the Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”].

 

(217.8) 19:4.2 One Censor is commissioned on each of the billion worlds of the central universe, being attached to the planetary administration of the resident Eternal of Days. Neither Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] nor Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”] are thus permanently attached to the Havona administrations, nor do we altogether understand why Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”] are stationed in the central universe. Their present activities hardly account for their assignment in Havona, and we therefore suspect that they are there in anticipation of the needs of some future universe age in which the Havona population may partially change.

 

(218.1) 19:4.3 One billion Censors are assigned to each of the seven superuniverses. Both in an individual capacity and in association with Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] and Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”], they operate throughout all divisions of the seven superuniverses. Thus the Censors act on all levels of the grand universe, from the perfect worlds of Havona to the councils of the System Sovereigns, and they are an organic part of all dispensational adjudications of the evolutionary worlds.

 

(218.2) 19:4.4 Whenever and wherever a Universal Censor [(“I am”) “present”] is present, then and there is the judgment of Deity. And since the Censors always render their verdicts in liaison with Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] and Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”], such decisions embrace the united wisdom, counsel, and judgment of the Paradise Trinity. In this juridical trio the Perfector of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”] would be the “I was,” the Divine Counselor the “I will be,” but the Universal Censor is always “I am.”

 

(218.3) 19:4.5 The Censors are universe totaling personalities. When a thousand witnesses have given testimony — or a million — when the voice of wisdom has spoken and the counsel of divinity has recorded, when the testimony of ascendant perfection has been added, then the Censor functions, and there is immediately revealed an unerring and divine totaling of all that has transpired; and such a disclosure represents the divine conclusion, the sum and substance of a final and perfect decision. Therefore, when a Censor has spoken, no one else may speak, for the Censor has depicted the true and unmistakable total of all that has gone before. When he speaks, there is no appeal.

 

(218.4) 19:4.6 Most fully do I understand the operation of the mind of a Perfector of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”], but I certainly do not fully comprehend the working of the adjudicating mind of a Universal Censor [(“I am”) “present”]. It appears to me that the Censors formulate new meanings and originate new values from the association of the facts, truths, and findings presented to them in the course of an investigation of universe affairs. It seems probable that the Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”] are able to bring forth original interpretations of the combination of perfect Creator insight and the perfected creature experience. This association of Paradise perfection and universe experience undoubtedly eventuates a new value in ultimates.

 

(218.5) 19:4.7 But this is not the end of our difficulties regarding the working of the minds of the Universal Censors [(“I am”)”present”]. Having made due allowances for all that we know or conjecture about the functioning of a Censor in any given universe situation, we find that we are still unable to predict decisions or to forecast verdicts. We very accurately determine the probable result of the association of Creator attitude and creature experience, but such conclusions are not always accurate forecasts of Censor disclosures. It seems likely that the Censors are in some manner in liaison with the Deity Absolute; we are otherwise unable to explain many of their decisions and rulings.

 

(218.6) 19:4.8 Perfectors of Wisdom [(“I was”) “past”], Divine Counselors [(“I will be”) “future”], and Universal Censors [(“I am”) “present”], together with the seven orders of Supreme Trinity Personalities, constitute those ten groups which have been sometimes designated Stationary Sons of the Trinity. Together they comprise the grand corps of Trinity administrators, rulers, executives, advisers, counselors, and judges. Their numbers slightly exceed thirty-seven billion. Two billion and seventy are stationed in the central universe and just over five billion in each superuniverse.

 

(219.1) 19:4.9 It is very difficult to portray the functional limits of the Stationary Sons of the Trinity. It would be incorrect to state that their acts are finite limited, for there are transactions of superuniverse record which indicate otherwise. They act on any level of universe administration or adjudication that may be required by time-space conditions and that pertains to the past, present, and future evolution of the master universe.

Edited by EEB aka AASB-AWSW

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You bring up a good point. The u.b shares that there are many personalizations of god. Now I am not yet sure how many beings fit into the category of a literal personalization of god. But I believe a being like a Ancient Of Days would.

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So some time has passed since becoming aware of a way to consider the three Sources-Centers (SCs) as persons, rather than only as deific aspects of the I AM. As I use the vantage of SCs as three deity unique, mutually interconnected, persons has continued working well, for me. Thanks to the relativity of concept levels, there's no mystery with SCs as aspects vs SCs as persons, for me. Both vantages totally work well relative to each other, and in relation to grounding the foundation of the universe frame. It's a solid and enduring plank of theological peace.

 

Focusing on the three SCs, I still don't use the story explanation:

[FSC] sources [sSC] and [(FSC+SSC) source TSC]

 

Because I don't have the need, as I did with regard to considering the SCs as persons, for that situation to work out. So I just run with the three SCs are mutually interconnected, mutually interdependent, and eternal-existential.

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