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Dr. Eben Alexander recently published Proof of Heaven. Like Howard Storm, Alexander was an atheist who, after having a profound near death experience, came to faith. Like Storm's account, there are specific details in Alexander's that correlate with the Urantia Book:

 

http://www.naturalnews.com/037917_Proof_of_Heaven_afterlife_Creator.html#ixzz2CBcMaF42

 

If more and more people come forward with NDE accounts that testify to there being multiple universes, each with billions of planets inhabited by intelligent life, will that prepare the general public for broader acceptance of the Urantia Book?

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Hi,

 

well I must say that this is today second article that I bounce upon in which scientific persons write about experiences and Ideas which corresponds to UB teachings.

Something is happening. :)

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' If more and more people come forward with NDE accounts that testify to there being multiple universes, each with billions of planets inhabited by intelligent life, will that prepare the general public for broader acceptance of the Urantia Book?''

 

IMO ... NO

 

Most People seem to be skeptical

of Such Stories , Unless They Also have

Had Similar Personal NDE Experiences .

 

The Same Seems to go for Other Types

Of Personal Spiritual / Religious Experiences

Told or Explained to Others .

Unless They Also have

Had Similar Personal Spiritual / Religious Experiences .

Even When Such Experiences are Told To , or By

A Loved one Or Close Friend that Can Be Trusted .

The Majority of People Cant Relate or Validate

Or Accept Anothers PERSONAL Experiences

as Valid Truth/s For Them .

Unless They Also have

Had Similar Personal Spiritual / Religious Experiences Also.

That They Can Relate to In Some Way .

 

Its Easy to Doubt and Be Skeptical When You

Havent Had The Same or Similar Experiences eh

Even IF You Have Had The Same or Similar Experiences

What Does IT Benefit Another By Shareing Such Stories?

 

Personal Spiritual / Religious Experiences

Are Just That PERSONAL .

 

Often Others Want or Feel the Need to Share

Personal Spiritual / Religious Experiences,

Yet Again ,

What Does IT Benefit Another By Shareing Such Stories?

 

The Same Goes For ...

Would or Does IT Benefit Another By Shareing

Your Personal , Intimate Sex Life With A Spouse . NO

Unless Your In Therapy lol

 

Although I Believe That Some NDE Experiences

And Many Personal Spiritual / Religious Experiences

Shared By Others Are or Maybe Somewhat % True and

Valid . It Is Often In The Attempt Of Shareing

Of Such Experiences That The Personal Interpretations

Are or Becomes Confused By Ones Own Mind .

 

Also Theres Been Many Medical and Scientific Studies

Done On NDE That Have Explained The Reasons and

The Way That NDE Effects The Mind and Body

and How It Can Come to Believe Such Phenomena.

 

Yet , Im Open to Believe That A Small % Percent

Of Such Experience May Be True Experiences.

Because Some of It I Can Personaly Relate To

By Several of My Own NDE Ive Had In My Life .

Over The Years Though Some of IT Ive Been

Able To Somewhat Explain Away As Possibly

Coming From My Subconscious and Subjective

Mind At Mischief , an yet some of It Seems To

Be A Unexplainable Phenomena , A Personal

Spiritual Experience that I Still Dont Really Understand .

 

Many People May Sincerly Believe That What They Believe

Is In Fact True and Truth/s

Yet ITs Not Always True and Truth/s

Or Only Relatively True .

 

After Personaly Experiencing GODs , Jesus Christ Michael,

The Holy Spirit , The Spirit of Truth an My TAs

Healing Light Of Love In My Life ,

And Reading And Studying the Urantia Papers

I No Longer Believe In A So Called HELL .

 

Except That WE Can Make Our Own Type

Of Hell on Urantia Threw / by Our Own Freewill

Choices IF WE Choose Evil , Sin an Inequity

AS a Choice WE Choose In Liveing Our Life .

 

Heres A Example of What Someone

Believes , That They Believe Is True .

A Long Story In Short , ...

My Sister Inlaw Believes In HELL .

And Several Years Ago Her Doctor Diagnosed

Her As Haveing A Inflamed Infected Appendix

That Needed to Be removed Asap

A Simple Standard Routine Procedure ,

Well , She went in the hospital and had the surgery

Done , A Few Days later she felt Sick and

Her Stomach , abdomen swelled up to the size

of a Basketball , She Was rushed back to the hospital

for Emergency surgery to find out what was wrong .

They Found that her Surgeon had messed up Big Time

and Had Accedently Cut Her Intestine During Surgery

and It Had Caused Internal Bleeding , Which then led to many

other Complications , Internal infections , Blood Transfusions

Her Lungs filled with infected blood etc ...

She Was in A Coma for Several Weeks , On Life Support

Special Respiratory Machines ,Many Drugs , and Medical Machines and stuff Ive Never seen before .

Threw Proper Medical Treatments an Lots of Prayers

She Survived , Thank GOD , Shes Doin Okay Now

Although loss of Blood to her brain , she now has some

memory an other brain function Issues as well as she

slurres her speech etc .

 

Anyhow about a year later she told her husband

About Her Memory Of Her Experience In The Coma NDE

That She Had and Clearly Remembers ,

She and Her Husband Told Me and My Wife About

Her Experience ,

She Explained it To Me Something like this ...

That She Was In A Dark Void Of Fire and Torment .

That Demons and Demonic Spirit Blobs Where

All Around Her Tormenting and Tortureing Her

an Others Constantly , That She Saw Small Babies

Being Eaten and other Horrible Things , She Said

That She Went To HELL.

She Said She Saw A Light In The Darkness and

She Prayed To Jesus For Help , an He Reached

His Hand In And Pulled Her Out Into The Light .

And That When She Came Back that she Was To

Change and help make things Better .

 

She Believes IN HELL

And She Believes That She Believes

That She Went There and

Was There .

 

I Still Dont Believe in Or Accept Such A Place

Or A Experience Of A So Called HELL.

That Our Loveing Father And Jesus Christ Michael

Would Create or Let Anyone BE At Such A Place

Or State Of Being , or Experiencing Such A So Called

Place Or State Of Being AS a So Called HELL .

 

I Tried To Explain to Her That Many Reasons

WHY I Dont Believe IN HELL ,

That GOD And Jesus Love Is Too Great

For Such A Place or State of Being ,

And Many Spiritual Reasons From The Bible

An The Urantia Book , And My Personal

NDE And Spiritual Experiences I Have Had ,

That Were Nothing Like Hers Or Even At ALL Similar .

Mine Were An Embrace Of Trust In The Light of Love .

 

Yet , We Agree to Disagree ,

She Believes In The NDE Personal Spiritual Experience

Of HELL She Had .

 

And I Believe In My Personal NDE Spiritual Experiences

Where Mine Were An Embrace Of Trust In The Light of GOD

And Christ Michaels Light Of Love .

 

Her Experiences and Mine Are Different ,

The Exact Opposite .

 

And Yet WE Both Believe In What WE Believe .

 

I Believe That Some Of My NDE Can Be Explained

Away After Reading Medical an Scientific Studies ,

Although Some Of IT Cant BE .

 

I Also Believe That Many of Hers Can Be Explained

Although Some Of IT Cant BE .

 

My Thoughts are that Much Of What She May Have

Thought She Had Experienced Was Due To

ALL The Stress and Trauma She Had To Her Brain

From The Lack of Oxygen , Heavy Amounts of Drugs

That Made Her Hallucinate while In A Coma ,

Her Subconscious And Subjective Views Of Her

Mind Were Attempting an Trying To Cope With The Situation .

And The Pain .

Maybe Feelings of Guilt of Things In Her Past ,

Or Other Issues Also etc

 

Yet What I / She Or What Anyone Claims

To Believe IS A True Personal NDE

Or Spiritual Experience IS Only Valid Or Partly

True or ONLY Relatively True FOR THEM .

 

So Then IT DOESNT And Shouldnt Have

ANY Personal Benefit To ANYONE Else

By Shareing Such Stories .

 

Of WHAT They BELIEVE .

Thats My Point .

 

ANY Personal Spiritual or Religious Experience

Or Personal Revelation IS Just That

PERSONAL .

 

So Although So Called NDE Are Interesting Stories

 

Who Cares , ... IT Doesnt Matter

Or IS IT Valid To Or For Another As Truth/s

To Or For Them .

 

NAMASTE

 

The ONLY Reason I Shared Some Of My

And Her Story ,

IS Simply To Show and Explain The

Many Various Contrasts About

What Others Believe That They BELIEVE .

 

'' Believe IT Or NOT ''

Ripley

Edited by Coop
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