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Nelson G

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  1. Thank you for the references. Certainly people of that time had asked the fundamental questions: who am I, where do I come from, where am I going - and may have imagined that they may not be alone in the universe - but Jesus put forward simple concepts that made the idea all more approachable, possible and compelling. I am certain that Ganid and others would reflect on this later in their lives. And the idea that justice and mercy do not originate on our small world. Much food for thought.
  2. Can you not see that on this world such responsibilities had better rest upon the group or be administered by chosen representatives of the group? In the universe, judgment is vested in those who fully know the antecedents of all wrongdoing as well as its motivation. In civilized society and in an organized universe the administration of justice presupposes the passing of just sentence consequent upon fair judgment, and such prerogatives are vested in the juridical groups of the worlds and in the all-knowing administrators of the higher universes of all creation." ___________________________________________________________________________________ More than one time Jesus talked about the universe and other worlds. Ganid did not appear to respond to this one way or another , nor do I recall others being just a bit curious. Ganid was having enough difficulties getting an understanding of mercy and justice I suppose.
  3. Said Jesus: "Though human beings differ in many ways, the one from another, before God and in the spiritual world all mortals stand on an equal footing. There are only two groups of mortals in the eyes of God: those who desire to do his will and those who do not. As the universe looks upon an inhabited world, it likewise discerns two great classes: those who know God and those who do not. Those who cannot know God are reckoned among the animals of any given realm. Mankind can appropriately be divided into many classes in accordance with differing qualifications, as they may be viewed physically, mentally, socially, vocationally, or morally, but as these different classes of mortals appear before the judgment bar of God, they stand on an equal footing; God is truly no respecter of persons. Although you cannot escape the recognition of differential human abilities and endowments in matters intellectual, social, and moral, you should make no such distinctions in the spiritual brotherhood of men when assembled for worship in the presence of God." _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I believe that this is what the founders of America meant when they said that all men are created equal.
  4. When archaeologists began opening pharo's tombs it became obvious what value earthly riches have and what goes with pharo's spirit into the next world.
  5. Right time, right day for this paper - I will print it and read it every morning.
  6. I think it best to take our opinions and run with them, otherwise remain confused. The other side of this is that we are told about the efforts of the revealators to present enlarged concepts and the difficulties encountered. Maybe this is more of a mental excercise than a scientific venture??
  7. I suspect this statement explains much about the relation of time and space, though I have to admit its meaning eludes me: ...Space is measured by time, not time by space.... P.1439 - 4 I'll give it a try; My thoughts are that the revealators are assuming that every reader understands and agrees that material things are a vital part of this statement. Without material things moving around it would have no meaning imho. I sometimes try to figure out if time is just as intangible as space. I am personally more comfortable with time as opposed to space and this shapes my opinion. All measurements of material things within space that I know of are distance divided by time, not distance divided by space. All movement of material things occurs within space. I have always been comfortable with the idea of things within space that can be measured this way, making space between two objects something that I can then relate to. To me this statement just says that space is not a tangible thing without material things moving within it, therefore it is not usable for making measurements. It is more the measurement of moving things using time that defines space.
  8. You are born into the world, but no amount of anxiety and no manifestation of impatience will help you to grow up. You must, in all such matters, wait upon time. Time alone will ripen the green fruit upon the tree. Season follows season and sundown follows sunrise only with the passing of time A hard lesson indeed
  9. Imagine sitting in the library of Alexandria with Jesus.
  10. He was startled when Jesus replied, "Since you know the ways of kindness and value justice, perhaps the Gods have brought this erring man near that you may lead him into this better way. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ A great lesson for anybody who I may choose to criticize.
  11. Although Annas looked upon Jesus as a great man, he was puzzled as to how to advise him. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I could just imagine.
  12. Well - certainly Jesus the man and Michael our Creator Son existed within and occupied the same space and time - wouldn't you say? Possibly shadow and substance combined?
  13. Jesus' life is the everlasting comfort of all disappointed idealists. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Indeed.
  14. Is it safe enough to assume that our perception of patterns of reality is based on idea patterns of reality? When we attempt to define a pattern of reality that occupies space what do we come up with? Ideas. Patterns of reality that occupy space on material levels are more easy to live with if we do not try too hard to define them because when we do it all becomes very uncertain. Uncertainty manifests itself when we try to observe those pesky building blocks. If we cannot even define the position of a particle, how can we say with certainty that it occupies space?
  15. Imagining: Thinking about material things: I consider the fundamental particle (if there is such a thing). The supposed fundamental particle is thought to be indivisible - Democritus of Abdera visualized it centuries ago in a thought experiment where he had a magic knife that would cut a slice of cheese, possibly many thousands or hundred thousands of times until it could no longer be cut - arriving at the Atom - or what he concieved to be the fundamental indivisable particle. We now know that within the atom there are at least 17 (possibly more) fundamental indivisible particles, and when viewed as 17 parts in relation to the atom as a whole, there is an overwhelming abundance of space - forget about the forces for now. Could a fundamental particle occupy the same space and time as another? My imagination says no - that is if there really is a fundamental indivisible particle. The interesting thing to me is that nature seems to not want us to locate that fundamental indivisible particle of matter so one could ask the question - does anything at all occupy space? Louis ruled out Sprit patterns that exist in relation to space so what are we left with?
  16. Do you think that space, the exact same space can be occupied by more than one thing at exactly the same time? Thing meaning: material object/person or supermaterial object/person. No restrictions on size.
  17. P.1388 - ยง5 As the years passed, this young carpenter of Nazareth increasingly measured every institution of society and every usage of religion by the unvarying test: What does it do for the human soul? does it bring God to man? does it bring man to God? A very profound standard of measure for a very young man to have developed.
  18. Old Nazareth was nestled on a hillside with a road running by. Of course everyone in the town had climbed to the top of the hill for the spectacular view. Young Jesus found peace and perspective there as well: __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Certainly perspective, but peace? I wonder.
  19. And the question becomes: Is the fact of Jesus divinity more important to the human race than his life and teachings?
  20. God does not play dice with the universe. It was interesting how this belief manifested in this extraordinary man's life in relation to the new discoveries of quantum dynamics.
  21. My interpretation of the Life and Teachings of Jesus in the Urantia Book is that Jesus lived in order to reveal God's love for mankind. I think that if it were not for his enemies, he may have lived at least another 40 years or more.
  22. Then the question becomes: As we are on an endless quest to comprehend infinity/eternity - God the Father I AM - and we will never fully comprehend either, who in your imagination can? Possibly God the Supreme - when fully realized - and complete, the experiental Trinity?
  23. If I can euqate comprehending God the Father-I AM with comprehending eternity/infinity then yes, It appears so.
  24. I suppose the question is: If we never stop experiencing, will we ever comprehend the eternal or the infinite?
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