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  1. Hello Pike. forum friends! Pike: many months ago that I not visited you! I find this wonderful quote! Today I opened the Book and the first thing I saw was this paragraph! How true! I thought in this certainty, because that is, without a doubt! So what if not all understand us, who cares? actually anything, if everything is within us and we can sing out loud, if I have the desire to do. How important is it? if "once you give it expression, no power in the universe can prevent its flashing directly to the Absolute Spirit Personality of all creation" Undoubtedly: None Although ... would be nice if more people understand us when we attempt to give a new message! no? Peace and love... Alina ***
  2. Ah! Louis I turned on the lamp! We are saying the same thing because infinite dimension = zero. I liked this "I too have plans for a room with a view." and Absonite views, because: Alina ***
  3. Yes... Louis, thanks ... Me neither (or anyone) can mentally embrace the enormity of Paradise. but that does not mean it has no dimension,of some form; at least this is what the quote says: (152.1) 14:0.1...It is of enormous dimensions and almost unbelievable mass and consists of one billion spheres of unimagined beauty and superb grandeur, but the true magnitude of this vast creation is really beyond the understanding grasp of the human mind. Alina ***
  4. Hi to all! Right Louis! Paradise gravity is very moving, the look from where we the look, whether scientific, philosophical or spiritual. For me an analogy would be for example the ultimaton. Where I find the analogy? I think it's clear: We have a physical body and energy, or better, electrochemical, therefore I am "a cosmic reality" and I have kept in mind potential for upgrading. I am still attracted to Paradise gravity and depend on this attraction to remain.To be. The ultimaton has its nucleus in Paradise right? I have my core in the Spirit Thought Adjuster. I Am. Each analyzed according to the glass of your choice. Okay so be it. Greetings, Alina ***
  5. Hi all! How that the Paradise has no dimensions? It's enormous, gigantic! That does not take place in space, does not mean that Paradise does not have dimensions. I think it has some dimension, not spacetime. Although this is infinite. Greetings, Alina ***
  6. Thank You Rick! One additional quote to the start of this topic, so endearing! As important for the spiritual growth of civilization! LOVE... Alina ***
  7. Hi! Absonite, I think that are closely related, Havona- Paradise. The sense of movement in clockwise or counter these, it makes maintaining the balance of the superuniverses. This more the action of gravity.Right?
  8. Louis, Thank you! You enlightened me a lot! Greetings! Alina ***
  9. Admittedly Louis, The Fibonacci spiral! The golden spiral! Thanks for the clarification! From Wikipedia: The Golden Spiral (also called golden spiral) is a logarithmic spiral associated with the geometric properties of the rectangle dorado.1 The growth rate is Φ, ie the ratio represented golden.2 this spiral appears in various shapes of nature (plants, spirals,) as well as in the art. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWZr7gg0vcQ Alina ***
  10. Hi all! The light of the I AM tour forever progressively around all creation, and in turn all creation revolves around the I Am. About the spiral The spiral is a natural formation common in the plant kingdom, evokes the evolution of a force of a state. Is continuity, development, emancipation, creational rotation; in short the spiral is fertility connotes everything. It is the beginning and the end, birth and finitude, transformation. It is also one of the oldest symbols and is found in all continents, playing a key role in the symbolism from its appearance in the megalithic art.In many places the cycle represented "Birth-death-rebirth" and the Sun, believed still that same cycle, being born every morning, every night dying and being reborn the next morning. From earliest times, mankind has been fascinated by the spiral movement, which consists of a rotation to a central point or the reverse route. In all ancient cultures, the spiral, which is the natural form of the development and movement, has been a symbol of the journey to eternal life. The spiral form used as a symbol of the search for the soul of his release, representing the turning road, going to the center of the divine.representing the turning road, going to the center of the divine. These forms are included at all levels of space and time. We find them in galaxies, the solar system, in the universal code of life, religion and art of all human cultures. But What is its deeper meaning?, What is the ultimate meaning of the message we convey and how they relate to our very existence as children of the same stars? The Earth was born from spiraling motion of a cloud of gas and dust. Since then, the coils are part of our everyday environment. We contemplate at all possible levels, both in space and in time. The spiral appears in nature and science describes the rotation of the universe, the movements of the stars. This represents a growth and development. The helical shape is present in the depths of the living, as in the double helix of DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) coding our inheritance. The human body also contains the triple helix of umbilical cord consists of two arteries and one vein. Fingerprints, sweat glands and hair follicles, and the twisted structure of some bones and our inner ear snail-one of the most perfect spirals, also evoke the same way, they also observed that culminate in the waves coiling in snail shells, the movement of cyclones or tornadoes and divergent or centrifugal spiral curves of galaxies. All these cases are examples of how nature repeats again and again that is why with us since the birth of the solar system. At the end of the day, this is a spiral that integrates a much higher:huge swirl of the Milky Way, which turns rapidly in space repeating the same reason. Perhaps for this reason, this form since ancient times became one of the most universal symbols of mankind and is found in all civilizations. Greetings, Alina ***
  11. Absonite...It need not be so, people perceive according to his view and we are not, or I can not be in all minds. For me is as I see it and we read the same Book. An ellipse is an elongated circle no? "TO EVEN high orders of universe intelligences infinity is only partially comprehensibland the finality of reality is only relatively understandable...conceiving eternity-infinity as an almost limitless ellipse which is produced by one absolute cause, and which functions throughout this universal circle of endless diversification, ever seeking some absolute and infinite potential of destiny." We also know that by observing the movement of the superuniverses, always rotate elliptically "We have long since discovered that the seven superuniverses traverse a great ellipse, a gigantic and elongated circle...(165.1) As do ultimatons unresponsive to linear gravity.(465.2) So why not make an analogy with the circuit of our thoughts-ideas-ideals, higher? so we can break the vicious circle and stretch our discernment mentally, to be able to walk around more ... Alina ***
  12. Absonite, here an important quote, says a lot ... Greetings, Alina ***
  13. I agree Scott! So just to work with concepts that include all aspects, as I said in my previous post. The difference is I use in addition to what you say, to describe the evolution of thought. It would be the projection of a vertical ellipse, for linear-logical thinking, and a horizontal ellipse for reasoned thought. When logic, reason matches, we have a point, this is like the center of balance. Where logic and reason are, without missing the spiritual feeling from our hearts (otherwise it's impossible because if it were our study, mechanical) Revelations are logical, have come down to us, in a wide range of cosmological ideas and new thoughts. Do not forget that cosmology is the study of the universe as a whole, which includes theories about its origin, evolution, large scale structure and its future.Much more UB Cosmology! So we should follow the example, in fact, the Papers are down. no? Why is that? according to my understanding, is to practice a new method of thinking. Starting from the most high God and down the bar until logic within ourselves,and here also is God in us. For one thing, they tell us, that the Fifth Revelation saves us ages and ages, in our evolution! But to implement it, make it effective, studying very differently from what we are accustomed to traditional methods. Not the best the studio system memory, or only intellectual loose even studying the parts that attract us, but, according to my experience, we go gathering all pieces and connect them together, to be forming "mass" that must be homogeneous and devoid of elements foreign to its high purpose. Get the genuine evolutionary growth. raise our consciousness, This is what the developers are asking us. So I always say that the UB is Unity. Of course each do the best we can at all times, there is a moment for everything and everyone! Besides that make the attempt has value, because not so much what the creature understood, but what we want to understand, says a quote.(no literal) Love... Alina ***
  14. Hello to all! I think that philosophy sometimes illogical. be illusory plane of imagination. But do not forget that the philosophical concepts, to be logical, must raise their projection linearly with scientific reasoning. This reasoning, of course, prevents pond conclusions or speculations wrong, Mentally so elliptical form a conceptual framework. Starting from the ground, so to speak and raising their perceptions, to the inclusion of the Trinity, and therefore spiritual, returning with a picture as possible balanced and symmetrical. Because both science and philosophy should not only deal with a part of reality, but would have to include both aspects and then be able to reconcile and to form a solid foundation. To move forward. The other is to go round and round, some in a maze with no way out to understand broader realities. This is the big problem, I think, when attempting to reach conclusions, hasty, without considering the symmetry of thought, which, as mentioned, should consider, logic, science, spirituality, without it ever get biased responses, without any possibility of giving a new twist upward for spiritual growth, scientific, philosophical, So the thought-discernment becomes elliptical, as it rises above the ordinary, biased and dogmatic, rises from the material to the spiritual, and his step takes all that is valuable to return with something more substantial and realvalue. Also the process can start from the spiritual and vertically down to touch the areas, philosophical and scientific It depends on the individual and personal experience; but, for me, Philosophy-Science-Religion in should be a system within which it is impossible to take a single item, without falling into hazardous atmospheres and reach misconceptions, partial and no possibility of Real Growth-Aware. Sorry Louis, I have not enough time to search for quotes from UB. but I know there are many on this topic that support these concepts as important to our growth in all aspects. Greetings, Alina ***
  15. Hello Louis and Thank you! If we take into account this quote, I think the answer is Yes...
  16. I add two quotes that may interest you: Alina ***
  17. Hello! As I find answers repeatedly in the following paragraph which I am reading or slightly forward or backward. It seems to go with a specific purpose of this is so. I think the answers are found here: (1226.14) 112:1.10 The finite dimensions of personality have to do with cosmic length, depth, and breadth. Length denotes meaning; depth signifies value; breadth embraces insight — the capacity to experience unchallengeable consciousness of cosmic reality. The length represents the meanings that we can understand (intellectual personality in my opinion) the depth would be the acquisition of permanent values (spiritual personality with acquisitions), the breadth is the length (understanding) and depth (values) personality is so a system. It not only add length and depth but are transformed, are composed, are arranged, as the UB says. "The length dignifies the meaning" The higher we raise our ideas and ideals are transformed into, this accomplishes that any effort "be dignified" or making actual value, and this value is the "depth" since the facts are not superficial, but passengers and relative are guided into the deepest, inward of cosmic consciousness (cosmic reality) "Personality has three dimensions": has a stroke, and is rising, personality is not static, not moving or "should not move" in the limited scope of what we perceive with our physical senses only in the limitations of time and space, but can go "beyond". This would be an extended perception, in clear geometric progression. Is the evolutionary spiral. Now, if the "depth" moves vertically, is limited by the physical environment, and not "beyond", can not be expanded.Is linear. This idea leads us to conceive of "breadth", which is the "expansion" of personality in all directions can embrace and identification, which is related, in my opinion, with the closeness to the Spirit within us, to total identification with Him, which makes us individual beings. (1225.7) 112:0.7 5. Personality, while devoid of identity, can unify the identity of any living energy system.This reminds me of what we already know: that the Thought Adjuster, potentially, is intended to achieve the Personality, by our decisions. Well Louis, in broad strokes this is what I understand. Greetings, Alina ***
  18. Yes... Louis! I agree with you, but do not forget that there are also morontia levels and morontia mathematics, so I think there are other dimensions. But it is not my intention to get away from the topic or complicate matters. Thank you! Alina ***
  19. Thank you Raymond! Of course for us, now, we just deal with seven dimensional concepts, but does not mean that many more exist .. as the quote (below) to get the absolute level, without time and space. Much to our small minds embrace the entire Great I Am! I am content enough to know... who I am? Greetings, Alina ***
  20. I think there is always the angle of observation and perception resulting distortions or raises different ideas or concepts cosmographical. I found an explanation that I share, for me at least is interesting: Since I believe to be able to move forward on this issue,we should all look from the inside to out, from top to bottom,but also with a comprehensive vision multidimensional, nonlinear, which is coincident with the Paradise- centric cosmography. Therefore, for me, the map that arises contains more than seven dimensions, because I AM still ... still ... rotating and expanding for all Eternity (Past, Present and Future) Is Absonite axis. The Paradise-centric cosmography. The cosmography presented in the Papers is that of a creation which does have a center, and wherein absolute motion (motion in relation to this center) can take place. The clockwise-counter­clockwise processional of the space levels is absolute motion – motion in relation to something that is completely motionless, the stationary Isle of Paradise. (133.4) 12:4.2 All other motion of physical bodies in the space levels is relative motion. (133.12) 12:4.10 It may be that, in the largest sense, the Newtonian concept of universe with a center offers less distortion of fact than the Einsteinian conception of no center. http://www.urantia.org/appendices-study-master-universe/appendix-iii-space-levels-master-universe Thanks... Alina ***
  21. I think there is always the angle of observation and perception resulting distortions or raises different ideas or concepts cosmographical. I found an explanation that I share, for me at least is interesting: Since I believe to be able to move forward on this issue,we should all look from the inside to out, from top to bottom,but also with a comprehensive vision multidimensional, nonlinear, which is coincident with the Paradise- centric cosmography. Therefore, for me, the map that arises contains more than seven dimensions, because I AM still ... still ... rotating and expanding for all Eternity (Past, Present and Future) Is Absonite axis. The Paradise-centric cosmography. The cosmography presented in the Papers is that of a creation which does have a center, and wherein absolute motion (motion in relation to this center) can take place. The clockwise-counter­clockwise processional of the space levels is absolute motion – motion in relation to something that is completely motionless, the stationary Isle of Paradise. (133.4) 12:4.2 All other motion of physical bodies in the space levels is relative motion. (133.12) 12:4.10 It may be that, in the largest sense, the Newtonian concept of universe with a center offers less distortion of fact than the Einsteinian conception of no center. http://www.urantia.org/appendices-study-master-universe/appendix-iii-space-levels-master-universe Thanks... Alina ***
  22. Hi Rick! How much we learn about Jesus, about his human life and divine! We have the guide, the example in these Papers, but how easily we forget, many times, to follow in his footsteps.We know that our life can not be lived exactly like Jesus, impossible, but in his teachings are includes all aspects, for to learn to live Well, both in terms of material life and in our spiritual way; as necessary and important! especially in these difficult times, which is going for humanity as a whole. So lacking! and we have no right to waste time on trivialities. right? Greetings, Alina ***
  23. Hello! I'm actually thinking that our ideas in these seemingly complicated topic, is not easy to write. We are dealing with a human lenjuage therefore limited. limited. For me, it is not convenient for our mind, we should not complicate it, for the sake of genuine spiritual growth and spiritual. Please, this is non-reviews, quite the opposite. After all God is Father-Mother, the second and third source or center can also act as Father-Mother depending on the function and necessity. Infinite Mother. Infinite Son. Infinite Spirit. Father-Mother are infinite! Acting in Paradise and in the universes of time and space, through action, to produce personalities that manifest in the local universe. For example. Divine Infinite Spirit-Minister-Adjutant Mind Spirits. Universal Mother always denotes, birth, creation, matrix. Father-thought, and the Spirit action but complementary and.. so much... So say Infinite-Universal Mother, represents not more, than the female, Creative, Unit. I think the scale the psychic circles, the understanding of these ideas,ideals simultaneously expands and synthesized Synthesizing; Infinite Mother---Infinite Father = Infinity Eternity- Unity. For this I chose the following quotes because can not be studied as separate, always enter the other components,.Wonderful! Greetings to all! Alina ***
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