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  1. GOOD DAY RICK! I think it relates to the mind and the mind of the spirit associated, yield its fruits. This has a multiplier power because if we progress we leave that legacy to our descendants and thus, growth and abundance of these goods, will extend ... It is a service for ourselves and for posterity. (1930.3) 178:1.6...In the gospel of the kingdom there resides the mighty Spirit of Truth, and presently I will pour out this same spirit upon all flesh. The fruits of the spirit, your sincere and loving service, are the mighty social lever to uplift the races of darkness, and this Spirit of Truth will become your power-multiplying fulcrum. Much Love... Alina ***
  2. Yes Rick! For me, absolutely amazing, awesome event in the life of the Master.For once and forever, in one action Superhuman Jesus accomplished overcome evil. Something that costs us... step ... by ... step ... To think that we have shown a Jesus of miracles!But... How small! are those miracles.True? Thank You! Alina ***
  3. Hello Rick! I believe that in fact, we have that potential, that of overcoming evil. in its many manifestations and triumph over the material levels The achievement of Jesus on Mount Hermon shows, to me, that there are possibilities of struggle and choice. There are tests, there are opportunities ... For Jesus was the greatest test for the final achievement, for it he said, “The period of rest is over; I must return to my Father’s business.He was a silent and much changed man..." 134:8.10 Of course he had changed... Of course, he felt this change and was silent ... if Jesus was a new man probably many new thoughts hovered in his mind. A Wonderful event! Some quotes reminders: (616.1) 54:4.2 Parents, those who have borne and reared children,are better able to understand why Michael, a Creator-father,might be slow to condemn and destroy his own Sons. Jesus’ story of the prodigal son well illustrates how a loving father can long wait for the repentance of an erring child. (617.6) 54:5.6 5. Regardless of Michael’s attitude toward Lucifer, notwithstanding his being Lucifer’s Creator-father, it was not in the province of the Creator Son to exercise summary jurisdiction over the apostate System Sovereign because he had not then completed his bestowal career, thereby attaining unqualified sovereignty of Nebadon. Much Love... Alina ***
  4. Good Day Rick! I am interested in "the mind can conceive the spirit" for itsintimate relationship with the Thought Adjuster. For me there is transcends oneself (ego) to be able to "conceive is the spirit." This transcend physical reality through the mind, and therefore gain ever higher levels of consciousness, all of which coincides with the progression of the seven psychic circles of thought. More and more truth is obtained, persevere, and get step further, the progressive state of personality unification.The levels of thought and feeling increasingly higher are possible, even on Urantia as Jesus taught. mainly with his example. LOVE to All! Alina ***
  5. Hello Rick, all! Much quality in these quotes! Would like to write long ... but I think the following quote says a lot, I think the apparent separation between science and religion is a "human invention" because:"Never, then, can either science or religion, in and of themselves, standing alone, hope to gain an adequate understanding of universal truths and relationships without the guidance of human philosophy and the illumination of divine revelation(1135.7) (1135.4)103:6.2 When man approaches the study and examination of his universe from the outside, he brings into being the various physical sciences; when he approaches the research of himself and the universe from the inside, he gives origin to theology and metaphysics. The later art of philosophy develops in an effort to harmonize the many discrepancies which are destined at first to appear between the findings and teachings of these two diametrically opposite avenues of approaching the universe of things and beings. (1135.5)103:6.3 Religion has to do with the spiritual viewpoint, the awareness of the insideness of human experience. Man’s spiritual nature affords him the opportunity of turning the universe outside in. It is therefore true that, viewed exclusively from the insideness of personality experience, all creation appears to be spiritual in nature. (1135.6)103:6.4 When man analytically inspects the universe through the material endowments of his physical senses and associated mind perception, the cosmos appears to be mechanical and energy-material. Such a technique of studying reality consists in turning the universe inside out. (1135.7)103:6.5 A logical and consistent philosophic concept of the universe cannot be built up on the postulations of either materialism or spiritism, for both of these systems of thinking, when universally applied, are compelled to view the cosmos in distortion, the former contacting with a universe turned inside out, the latter realizing the nature of a universe turned outside in. Never, then, can either science or religion, in and of themselves, standing alone, hope to gain an adequate understanding of universal truths and relationships without the guidance of human philosophy and the illumination of divine revelation. LOVE... Alina ***
  6. P.1474 - §2 The miller he taught about grinding up the grains of truth in the mill of living experience so as to render the difficult things of divine life readily receivable by even the weak and feeble among one's fellow mortals. Said Jesus: "Give the milk of truth to those who are babes in spiritual perception. In your living and loving ministry serve spiritual food in attractive form and suited to the capacity of receptivity of each of your inquirers." Good Day Rick ! Is so difficult to choose a single teaching! are all very enlightening and embrace many interesting aspects. I like this as complement because it helps in the experiences and serve us spiritual food for everyone... Greetings, Alina ***
  7. Rick said: "And that sometimes a majestic silence is the 'best', and maybe the only way" YES! Yes, it is learning the hard way ... Thank You Rick! Alina ***
  8. Hello Rick! Good Day! ...Thus did Jesus teach the dangers and illustrate the unfairness of sitting in personal judgment upon one's fellows. Discipline must be maintained, justice must be administered, but in all these matters the wisdom of the brotherhood should prevail. Jesus invested legislative and judicial authority in the group, not in the individual. Even this investment of authority in the group must not be exercised as personal authority. There is always danger that the verdict of an individual may be warped by prejudice or distorted by passion. Group judgment is more likely to remove the dangers and eliminate the unfairness of personal bias. Jesus sought always to minimize the elements of unfairness, retaliation, and vengeance.... P.1764 - 1 Vengeance not good. What teaching! be nice the day the brotherhood is revealed in all its splendor. We will be more unaccompanied. We are learning ... but I wonder if we're not in the time to put in practice the teachings of Jesus. Jesus taught that when disputes. between brothers, we must call two or three friends in common, to offer testimony, it is very wise! but true friendship must be free of speculation ... (1762.5)159:1.3 “The Father in heaven loves his children, and therefore should you learn to love one another; the Father in heaven forgives you your sins; therefore should you learn to forgive one another. If your brother sins against you, go to him and with tact and patience show him his fault. And do all this between you and him alone. If he will listen to you, then have you won your brother. But if your brother will not hear you, if he persists in the error of his way, go again to him, taking with you one or two mutual friends that you may thus have two or even three witnesses to confirm your testimony and establish the fact that you have dealt justly and mercifully with your offending brother. Now if he refuses to hear your brethren, you may tell the whole story to the congregation, and then, if he refuses to hear the brotherhood, let them take such action as they deem wise; let such an unruly member become an outcast from the kingdom. While you cannot pretend to sit in judgment on the souls of your fellows, and while you may not forgive sins or otherwise presume to usurp the prerogatives of the supervisors of the heavenly hosts, at the same time, it has been committed to your hands that you should maintain temporal order in the kingdom on earth. While you may not meddle with the divine decrees concerning eternal life, you shall determine the issues of conduct as they concern the temporal welfare of the brotherhood on earth. And so, in all these matters connected with the discipline of the brotherhood, whatsoever you shall decree on earth, shall be recognized in heaven. Although you cannot determine the eternal fate of the individual, you may legislate regarding the conduct of the group, for, where two or three of you agree concerning any of these things and ask of me, it shall be done for you if your petition is not inconsistent with the will of my Father in heaven. And all this is ever true, for, where two or three believers are gathered together, there am I in the midst of them.” Also there are false witnesses: (1982.9) 184:3.8 Although the high priest shouted at Jesus, “Do you not answer any of these charges?” Jesus opened not his mouth.He stood there in silence while all of these false witnesses gave their testimony. Hatred, fanaticism, and unscrupulous exaggeration so characterized the words of these perjurers that their testimony fell in its own entanglements. The very bestrefutation of their false accusations was the Master’s calm and majestic silence. Another Magisterial teaching of Jesus: Silence. The silence forced by circumstances and people, is a sign of wisdom as demonstrated by Jesus. Very good lessons to experience in the life. Much Love. Alina ***
  9. Good Day Dear Rick! Thank You... What a beautiful quote! I can imagine the scene! And the Beauty of the meanings of the last paragraphs."And it was, and is, ever thus" P.1467 - §5 What a scene for the celestial intelligences to behold, this spectacle of the Indian lad proposing to the Creator of a universe that they make a new religion! And though the young man did not know it, they were making a new and everlasting religion right then and there--this new way of salvation, the revelation of God to man through, and in, Jesus. That which the lad wanted most to do he was unconsciously actually doing. And it was, and is, ever thus. That which the enlightened and reflective human imagination of spiritual teaching and leading wholeheartedly and unselfishly wants to do and be, becomes measurably creative in accordance with the degree of mortal dedication to the divine doing of the Father's will. When man goes in partnership with God, great things may, and do, happen. Much Love... Alina ***
  10. Hi Rick! Carolyn, I researched and found this: It is believed to Epimenides, Cretan poet who said: "Cretans are always liars, injurious wild beasts, idle gluttons." Of these concepts is considered that came the word idiot (also "cretino" Spanish language ) or be referred to the Cretans who were acting as what he described Paul. This is all I found... mmm? LOVE... Alina ***
  11. One more! (1096.6) 100:3.1 Religion is not a technique for attaining a static and blissful peace of mind; it is an impulse for organizing the soul for dynamic service. It is the enlistment of the totality of selfhood in the loyal service of loving God and serving man. Religion pays any price essential to the attainment of the supreme goal, the eternal prize. There is a consecrated completeness in religious loyalty which is superbly sublime. And these loyalties are socially effective and spiritually progressive.
  12. Hello Rick! There are so many... LOVE... Alina ***
  13. Hello Rick, Good Day! Thank You! Complementary Quotes: (41.6) 2:6.8 God loves the sinner and hates the sin: such a statement is true philosophically, but God is a transcendent personality, and persons can only love and hate other persons. Sin is not a person. God loves the sinner because he is a personality reality (potentially eternal), while towards sin God strikes no personal attitude, for sin is not a spiritual reality; it is not personal; therefore does only the justice of God take cognizance of its existence. The love of God saves the sinner; the law of God destroys the sin. This attitude of the divine nature would apparently change if the sinner finally identified himself wholly with sin just as the same mortal mind may also fully identify itself with the indwelling spirit Adjuster. Such a sin-identified mortal would then become wholly unspiritual in nature (and therefore personally unreal) and would experience eventual extinction of being. Unreality, even incompleteness of creature nature, cannot exist forever in a progressingly real and increasingly spiritual universe. (42.1) 2:6.9 Facing the world of personality, God is discovered to be a loving person; facing the spiritual world, he is a personal love; in religious experience he is both. Love identifies the volitional will of God. The goodness of God rests at the bottom of the divine free-willness — the universal tendency to love, show mercy, manifest patience, and minister forgiveness. *** Love... Alina ***
  14. Hi Rick! What a smart way! I Think If Jesus had called too much attention to himself, he would have lost many future believers the Kingdom! Not only He was born in Nazareth, also,he would have given a striking image, but common, Jesus knew very well, knew the mind of the people! He knew very well about your ideas and thoughts! Much Love Alina ***
  15. Dear Raymond! For me too this forum will always be unique, and will be in my memory, it's true brother, together, we learned a lot here! Much Love... Alina ***
  16. Hello Louis! "But the idea is whether spirit can coexist with the reality by a phase shift relationship" For me, in fact can coexist, and in fact I think exist under different conditions, by a phase shift relationship. Greetings! Alina ***
  17. Hello Pike! Perhaps you serve this quote, which was of extreme test for the followers of Jesus. Peace and love... Alina ***
  18. Yes! Dear Scott, you are saying the same as me, but with other words! Of course, the opinion of others is valid, always! is a help. But, we also have our own, those who are born of our understanding, with the help of our Thought Adjuster Spirit. Greetings! Alina ***
  19. Yes Scott, I understand very well! what to intellectualize the teachings I said it in genral, I was not referring to you Really does not matter because f it's yours, better, but it's always your own interpretation that counts, even if you agree with what you hear in the study groups, it's like yours! no? Of course groups are important, because we know about the socialization and the dangers of always studying alone. After all, the forum is like a study group, too. but lack the personal touch, which is important. Also is good study in solitude, thinking, meditating. Like when Jesus went to the mountains to talk to your Father in heaven. Wouu ... I do not like giving advice, but I do not know, is that I want to share with you my own experience, and this will not be the same as yours. or maybe we have something in common. While, certainly we have in common our identification with the teachings of the Fifth Revelation. And that's saying a lot. Greetings! Alina ***
  20. Thanks Scott, it's okay to write your insights about what is said in the study groups, Tuesdays. well you do me a favor because I miss a little, when I hear talking very fast, because of language pronunciation .It's great what you said! We sample, you can further study, and this, in my opinion, help to apply to our desire to be better, to grow and progress.I understand, we always consider the sins, the error, we might call common, but it is going further when we explore deeper areas and we deep into other levels of consciousness I think because it is precisely the level of our consciousness. Things are not as simple as they seem, many times. What you're saying is that being spiritual, we can also make errors. I agree that we will not be here "totally spiritual "and we must be careful not to produce, a mixture "watery" and then drag other situations internal conflicts for which are not yet mentally prepared, it would a short-circuit with disastrous consequences. How important it is to have this point in mind! Now remember the point of morontia mota says: " Inherent capacities cannot be exceeded; a pint can never hold a quart. The spirit concept cannot be mechanically forced into the material memory mold.48:7.5 3" It can not be forced or in us, because that would use violence against ourselves! and obviously, on the others persons.There is much to discover here.Because, too often, the mistake of giving other thing we know is we want one product of personal brilliance, to show others how much we know! and actually that's no good. If anything we have, of course it is to share, but with the sincere hope that it will be useful to someone, and there is no danger of forcing, because if not the time, the words go long or are as a blank paper, when we write. is different to be together with someone, and we insist... insist ... for convince of our ideas. Error It's like spreading of UB. (556.8) 48:7.8 6. To enjoy privilege without abuse, to have liberty without license, to possess power and steadfastly refuse to use it for self-aggrandizement — these are the marks of high civilization. We, in the space-time we have the possibility to reach an "intermediate" level reaching cosmic ment, but everything is progressive. Whoever gets there, must have passed far enough to have a fairly broad view of the difference between reality and "Reality", for possible unify later. (104.5) 9:6.7 The greater the spirit-energy divergence, the greater the observable function of mind; the lesser the diversity of energy and spirit, the lesser the observable function of mind. Apparently, the maximum function of the cosmic mind is in the time universes of space. Here mind seems to function in a mid-zone between energy and spirit, but this is not true of the higher levels of mind; on Paradise, energy and spirit are essentially one. (1285.3) 117:4.14 God’s gifts — his bestowal of reality — are not divorcements from himself; he does not alienate creation from himself, but he has set up tensions in the creations circling Paradise. God first loves man and confers upon him the potential of immortality — eternal reality. And as man loves God, so does man become eternal in actuality. And here is mystery: The more closely man approaches God through love, the greater the reality — actuality — of that man. The more man withdraws from God, the more nearly he approaches nonreality — cessation of existence. When man consecrates his will to the doing of the Father’s will, when man gives God all that he has, then does God make that man more than he is. Alina ***
  21. Yes Scott, when there is nothing ... nothing .... It is the great paradox, as the UB says. The duality we always going to find in space-time, but for me, I insist that the issue is decide to do the Will of the Father, but this requires having some attitudes and skills as the quote says. Courage to transcend to ourselves, this would neutralize the situation between the two opposite poles; the overvalue our self-awareness and and learn to see the reality of who we are? and where we are going? Thus, I think, that we have the possibility of removing the con-fusion that as you say, is to fusion with the conflict of dual loyalty, no? Is this what you mean? (1221.8) 111:6.1 Many of the temporal troubles of mortal man grow out of his twofold relation to the cosmos. Man is a part of nature — he exists in nature — and yet he is able to transcend nature. Man is finite, but he is indwelt by a spark of infinity. Such a dual situation not only provides the potential for evil but also engenders many social and moral situations fraught with much uncertainty and not a little anxiety. (1222.1) 111:6.2 The courage required to effect the conquest of nature and to transcend one’s self is a courage that might succumb to the temptations of self-pride. The mortal who can transcend self might yield to the temptation to deify his own self-consciousness. The mortal dilemma consists in the double fact that man is in bondage to nature while at the same time he possesses a unique liberty — freedom of spiritual choice and action. On material levels man finds himself subservient to nature, while on spiritual levels he is triumphant over nature and over all things temporal and finite. Such a paradox is inseparable from temptation, potential evil, decisional errors, and when self becomes proud and arrogant, sin may evolve. (1222.2) 111:6.3 The problem of sin is not self-existent in the finite world. The fact of finiteness is not evil or sinful. The finite world was made by an infinite Creator — it is the handiwork of his divine Sons — and therefore it must be good. It is the misuse, distortion, and perversion of the finite that gives origin to evil and sin. Greetings! Alina ***
  22. Yes, that's true Bonita! This is related to a previous post, when a human being is in an unfavorable position and falls victim to a vicious circle, unable to see anything but their wrong beliefs. Scott mentioned to impatience, but for example, there is also fanaticism among other things. It is a real problem, but difficult to solve when someone attempts to rescue that person of where he/she are. It is clear in the quotes what I mean: (1220.10) 111:4.11 This is the problem: If freewill man is endowed with the powers of creativity in the inner man, then must we recognize that freewill creativity embraces the potential of freewill destructivity. And when creativity is turned to destructivity, you are face to face with the devastation of evil and sin — oppression, war, and destruction. Evil is a partiality of creativity which tends toward disintegration and eventual destruction. All conflict is evil in that it inhibits the creative function of the inner life — it is a species of civil war in the personality. (1221.1) 111:4.12 Inner creativity contributes to ennoblement of character through personality integration and selfhood unification. It is forever true: The past is unchangeable; only the future can be changed by the ministry of the present creativity of the inner self. Alina ***
  23. Hi all! True Bradly, thanks! Yes, good is stronger than evil. Always, Meanwhile we are on Urantia, learning to identify and experience, recognize where is the truth and where the error. The gravity spiritual, attraction updrafts are pulling towards higher levels. The Eternal Son is there, but the choice is ours. No, there's no need to fear, because we know that like attracts like. Bonita, I love this quote! 56:10.14 Every impulse of every electron, thought, or spirit is an acting unit in the whole universe. Only sin is isolated and evil gravity resisting on the mental and spiritual levels. The universe is a whole; no thing or being exists or lives in isolation. Self-realization is potentially evil if it is antisocial. It is literally true: “No man lives by himself.” Cosmic socialization constitutes the highest form of personality unification. Said Jesus: “He who would be greatest among you, let him become server of all.” Thought, as the electron and spirit act in the whole universe! But is the origin and nature of our thoughts and feelings, those attract or repel determining the fate of each of us. Greetings, Alina ***
  24. Anyway always the cause is the rebellion! But it is true the opportunities are limitless, we can choose. But to choose also requires to know and have faith. It's a bit complicated because minds often fall into a vicious circle, in which it becomes almost impossible remove of there. In my opinion, it could be because the person unwittingly, is blocking the thinking and feeling; can be, among other things, the impatience, as you say. This is the conflict of Urantians, not to be within "normal worlds" With the bestowal of Jesus much has been recovered! Alina ***
  25. Hi Rick! Yes..."Millions upon millions of children could benefit greatly from having such a father as he. From today's reading" This teaching method should be applied in these modern times, it seems incredible, but it is still very little known. Not only should parents know, it would also be useful for educators today. I know that some method like that, but I do not remember his name at this time, to specify it here. but still not popular. For thousands of years it has been applied education negatively! Also serve the elderly, not only children, because we were raised in the old method. Greetings! Alina ***
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