Great post very cosmic in thinking and what a UB reader is capable of.
as opposed to this line from Bill;
"Plus there has lately been a few "wolves in sheep's clothing," disingenuous troublemakers with agendas of their own to promote that have little to do with the study and discussion of the Urantia book."
Most of Bills nastiness[self told righteous Indignation] is forgettable and off the mark.
But Bill is a brother and does post sincere and thoughtful information when not consumed
with trying to Judge then control those who he personally dislikes or disagrees with.
Hey I give myself that same privilege[self imposed righteous Indignation] not my best trait but part of me none the less.
If since the subject is about Robert's suspension even those who totally misunderstand him one
can only say he is a Wolf in Wolves clothing he certainly does not pretend to be a Sheep.
You can reconize a Wolf posing as a sheep when he/she claims to be of high morals and spiritual nature
then exposes their true nature and fruits when their expectations are not met in others
Some Morontia motive is applicable here I think;
26. Knowledge is possessed only by sharing; it is safeguarded by wisdom and socialized by love.
27. Progress demands development of individuality; mediocrity seeks perpetuation in standardization.
28. The argumentative defense of any proposition is inversely proportional to the truth contained.
I vote for the right of both Robert and Bill to be themselves even if I don't like it.
As long as their are no sticks or stones involved.
"Sticks and Stones may break my Bones but Names will never hurt me"
This seems like good advise and again is backed by the UB.
as were most of your points Jose.
Jose sorry about the Bill stuff but this way its only one post.
Hi my friends...
I like comment, if allow me, with you permission.Only this interest aspect, that first question. Like a personal opinion.
We go through a journey, a beautiful journey, an adventure exuberant. The most great of all, the most exciting of all adventures. We begining the first steps, ours first steps of this path, of this spiritual search. We begining like a personal search, but at some time we found that much more people and friends to be in this path, in this way, in this adventure.
Here are enthusiam... Little by little. But it exists. Well yes there is certainly!. You have it!. Each one have it!. Itís your, belong to you. And you have that spirit, that mood, because is a happiness that donít explain with words, and you want that other people so do it. Do you wish that other people participate more, to be share more, to be courage more. And it is normal. Itís wonderful. Who donít be want some time?. That path it is so touched, so beautiful that you wish that creativity in the other people. And this ok. But my friend, we could not force to somebody. Each one has choise the better for that person. Some people like read more, study more, learning more. Itís wonderful. Each in his own way. Sometimes is very difficult to express it in words.
That courage, that share, that spirit has born in every man. Everything with measurement. We cannot change the people against his will. Every man himself choise the set oneís heart on something. And this is wonderful!. We cannot take that.
Remember this beautiful quote:
Man cannot cause growth, but he can supply favorable conditions. Growth is always unconscious, be it physical, intellectual, or spiritual. Love thus grows; it cannot be created, manufactured, or purchased; it must grow. Evolution is a cosmic technique of growth. 1097:4
Everything progress. Everything evolution to something better. Sometime that progress is very slowly. The wonderful flowers donít growth overnightÖ Itís a process. Sometime, perhaps, from that intellectuality suceeded to understand there are something highest that merely intellectuality. Do not exclude the intellectuality. But itís superiorÖ Itís a spiritual experience, a real experience, genuine, unique. A refreshing experience, a new experience. All things are becoming new. Itís happening that is experiential, thatís living, enjoy life to the full with all his being.
There are four phases in the evolution of religious philosophy: Such an experience may become merely conformative, resigned to submission to tradition and authority. Or it may be satisfied with slight attainments, just enough to stabilize the daily living, and therefore becomes early arrested on such an adventitious level. Such mortals believe in letting well enough alone. A third group progress to the level of logical intellectuality but there stagnate in consequence of cultural slavery. It is indeed pitiful to behold giant intellects held so securely within the cruel grasp of cultural bondage. It is equally pathetic to observe those who trade their cultural bondage for the materialistic fetters of a science, falsely so called. The fourth level of philosophy attains freedom from all conventional and traditional handicaps and dares to think, act, and live honestly, loyally, fearlessly, and truthfully. 1114:2
Sometime a person said:
Nothing is forced. The most beautiful always to give a natural way. A flower never forced to growth. Never forced to produce fruitsÖ Do it with naturalness!. Such is life!. In everything. The more forced more move it away. Tha Master said:
Always respect the personality of man. Never should a righteous cause be promoted by force; spiritual victories can be won only by spiritual power. This injunction against the employment of material influences refers to psychic force as well as to physical force. 1765:4
What do you do?. Follow your way. Follow with all love to be have, with all faith in our dear Father, with all energy, with all vitality, with all conviction, all certain, with all the enjoy and the happiness. Follow your way. Because itís a personal search. Because itís a personal way. Each one have a personal religion. It's personal. Rejoicing if somebody accompany us in this way!. To share with other people, sometime they ask about how do you get it. They be led to inquire. Be creative, be inventive, be yourself. Be someone new for your friends, for your family, here in this forum too, if you want. Wherever you go. In this path is very important to socialize with other friends. To know its experiences, their points of view. To feel the company of our friends. That Union of Love and spiritual values will unite more to us. Sometimes there are perspective differences, but Love is the Union. And that is the challenge, understanding more to us.
We are a creative persons. Itís innate. Itís natural. We living at this time in who a person need more creative, because has a better opportunity. In the work, amongst your family, amongst your friends, wichever you doÖ Beging yourself, wash the dishes, clean a room, to cook, wichever you do, try to with all love. Donít need forced somebody. Be creative yourself, and more creativity more you have to share. The more give more expandÖ But with respect. Itís difficult but that is a challenge.