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#1 John Anngeister

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 08:45 PM

It is one of the privileges of the believers of this revelation to entertain more advanced concepts regarding the Millennia of the Christian era than those entertained by the majority of our Christian brethren.

We have every reason to believe that these millennia are counted not from the birth of the Savior, but from the date of his reign as Planetary Prince, i.e., 030, 1030, and 2030 AD - the next being less than 23 years away. Of course, there is enough room for contending views to make it interesting. Some readers might argue for a millennium of Mt. Hermon (2025 AD), urging that it was on Hermon that the Lord settled the last issues bearing upon the true sovereignty of his Universe. Others may contend for a millennium of the Lord?s Baptism (2026 AD), or a millennium of Apostolic ordination (2027 AD).

Looking in the other direction along the line of our Lord?s life, it might give one pause to consider that we have in fact just passed - on April 9, 2007 - the second millennium of that eventful Passover celebration in Jerusalem, attended by the twelve-year old Jesus.

On the day before Passover Sabbath, flood tides of spiritual illumination swept through the mortal mind of Jesus and filled his human heart to overflowing with affectionate pity for the spiritually blind and morally ignorant multitudes assembled for the celebration of the ancient Passover commemoration. This was one of the most extraordinary days that the Son of God spent in the flesh, and during the night, for the first time in his earth career, there appeared to him an assigned messenger from Salvington, commissioned by Immanuel, who said, ?The hour has come. It is time that you began to be about your Father?s business.?

Looked at in the context of the Master's life, the future is (already) closer than we think. And maybe it were better for our own "advent preparations" if we felt the urgency of the hour for ourselves.

All this makes me wonder whether a new kind of ?Adventism? would not be a marvelous setting for evangelists of this revelation. It could be done very badly, for sure. But the morontia significance of an impending ?millennial roll call? is nothing to sniff at. After all, the planet's sleeping survivors who do not respond to the millennial call would likely sleep through the next ones as well, to be ?left behind? in unconscious sleep until the very end of the age - which could easily amount to tens of thousands of years.

At any rate, it is staggering enough to imagine the multitude who will rise at the next trumpet, souls who lived and died in hope (if not in faith) during the whole length of the second millennium. I think we are talking about a rare gathering outside the Resurrection Halls on the first Mansion world - a crowd composed of some whose time on earth pre-dated even the epochal Battle of Hastings (1066). Varied works of service and understanding for all (to the honor of Christ's name), when the time comes.


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Posted 26 May 2011 - 12:58 PM

136:2.8 Jesus was almost thirty-one and one-half years old when he was baptized. While Luke says that Jesus was baptized in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, which would be A.D. 29 since Augustus died in A.D. 14, it should be recalled that Tiberius was coemperor with Augustus for two and one-half years before the death of Augustus, having had coins struck in his honor in October, A.D. 11. The fifteenth year of his actual rule was, therefore, this very year of A.D. 26, that of Jesus’ baptism. And this was also the year that Pontius Pilate began his rule as governor of Judea.)

like the birth of jesus being off so is the fact that he was 31 1/2 when he started and it was a four year mission to 35 1/2 not 33.

Looking in the other direction along the line of our Lord?s life, it might give one pause to consider that we have in fact just passed - on April 9, 2007 - the second millennium of that eventful Passover celebration in Jerusalem, attended by the twelve-year old Jesus.



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Posted 16 June 2011 - 09:43 AM

136:2.8 Jesus was almost thirty-one and one-half years old when he was baptized. While Luke says that Jesus was baptized in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, which would be A.D. 29 since Augustus died in A.D. 14, it should be recalled that Tiberius was coemperor with Augustus for two and one-half years before the death of Augustus, having had coins struck in his honor in October, A.D. 11. The fifteenth year of his actual rule was, therefore, this very year of A.D. 26, that of Jesus’ baptism. And this was also the year that Pontius Pilate began his rule as governor of Judea.)

like the birth of jesus being off so is the fact that he was 31 1/2 when he started and it was a four year mission to 35 1/2 not 33.



Again, I had difficulties to understand the comment by rich. We might however analyze the following facts by comparing to modern history.


UB (1512.4) 136:2.8 (Jesus was almost thirty-one and one-half years old when he was baptized. While Luke says that Jesus was baptized in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, which would be A.D. 29 since Augustus died in A.D. 14, it should be recalled that Tiberius was coemperor with Augustus for two and one-half years before the death of Augustus, having had coins struck in his honor in October, A.D. 11. The fifteenth year of his actual rule was, therefore, this very year of A.D. 26, that of Jesus’ baptism. And this was also the year that Pontius Pilate began his rule as governor of Judea.)


We find that:

- Augustus died in A.D. 14
- Tiberius was coemperor with Augustus, starting A.D. 11
- Augustus, having had coins struck in Tiberius honor in October, A.D. 11
- Pontius Pilate began his rule as governor of Judea A.D. 26
- Jesus was almost 31.5 years old when he was baptized (UB)

Those facts are confirmed by the following sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus

Upon his death in AD 14, Augustus was declared a god by the Senate—to be worshipped by the Romans.[6] His names Augustus and Caesar were adopted by every subsequent emperor, and the month of Sextilis was renamed 'Augustus' (now August) in honour of his memory. He was succeeded by his adopted son (also stepson and former son-in-law), Tiberius.


Tiberius coempero from A.D. 11 ( see co-Emperor since CE 11 ):

http://antipas.net/emperors.htm

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF AUGUSTUS CE 13 AUGUSTUS, entering his late seventies, became exceedingly infirm by mid-September, and displaying diminished lucidity was quietly declared incompetent to deal with the most paramount matters of state, deemed mentally unworthy to rule the empire in any official capacity beyond trivial and strictly personal matters.

CE 13 TIBERIUS, co-Emperor since CE 11 , assumed complete control in mid-September. The reign of Tiberius, effectively, began at this time, although he was not coronated until the death of Augustus a year later.

CE 14 AUGUSTUS DIED, in mid-August. Tiberius, who already held both Tribunicia Potestas and Imperium Maius, and as co-Emperor since CE 11, succeeded, following approval of the Senate. While modern historians mark senatorial approval and official coronation as the beginning of the reign of Tiberius, historians of his own day and age marked his reign as beginning a year earlier in mid-September, CE 13.


Common Era, abbreviated as CE, is the same as A.D. in the UBook.

Pontius Pilate, was the fifth Prefect of the Roman province of Judaea, from 26–36 AD.

http://en.wikipedia..../Pontius_Pilate

Pontius Pilatus (Greek: Pontios Pīlātos), known in the English-speaking world as Pontius Pilate, was the fifth Prefect of the Roman province of Judaea, from 26–36 AD. He is best known as the judge at Jesus' trial and the man who authorized the crucifixion of Jesus. As prefect, he served under Emperor Tiberius.


Augustus, having had coins struck in Tiberius honor in October, A.D. 11

The following coin has been found, with the text:

TI(berius) CAESAR AVGVST(i) F(ilius) IMPERAT(or) V, SC

(Senatus Consulta = inscription on the reverse side of the coin from A.D. 10 or 11, according to Sutherland:

source: C. H. V. Sutherland: Roman History and Coinage 44 BC–AD 69. Fifty Points of Relation from Julius Caesar to Vespasian. Pp. 143; 46 of the 50 items are illustrated by 1 or more coins. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1987. £20 (paper, £7.95).

http://journals.camb...amp;aid=4008932



Jesus:
- was born on 21 August 7 B.C. (JD=1719099)
- was baptized 14 January 26 A.D. (JD=1730586)
- died 7 April 30 A.D. (JD=1732112)
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According to the Urantia Book information. JD stands for the Julian day number used by astronomers even today! Dates and weekdays in the UBook are according to the Julian Calendar but expressed in our English language.

Lets check this:

Jesus was almost 31.5 years old when he was baptized ?

1730586 – 1719099 = 11487 days = 31.45 years

So, all UBook information that I’m able to verify, is OK!

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 10:21 AM

HSTA,

I want to thank you for all you do here. Reading your intelligent, well-referenced and carefully crafted posts give me an education that was sorely neglected
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