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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:05 PM

I do not recall whether TUB tells us that other creations have souls or potentially could develop one. In all creation, are we the only ones to evolve a soul?

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

Hey BB!! Yes, I believe you are correct. Soul is the mortal mind's "pocket" for the morontia mind to come. It survives the material death and "transforms" from soul to mind....except that it really is morontia mind even as soul in the mortal being. So, since every spiritual urge, thought, intention, act, and truth discerned of survival quality is within this soul/morontia mind, the more mature we are in mind and the more we progress in spirit experience, the more we can access and utilize this mortal morontial mind or soul. The mass or content of soul is what we awaken with on the Mansion worlds - the morontial spheres.

The midwayers would be an interesting discussion as I know too little of their peculiar status; but I think that they, like seraphim and all others besides mortals, already have either morontia mind or spirit mind or some coelescence or unified spirit/morontia mind. The soul's journey is short compared to that of it's metamorphic morontia mind which takes us beyond fusion to finality. I don't know it we are pure spirit mind then or remain morontia minded....but I'll bet someone will share that with us both. There are many forms of ascendency and progress by many beings, but the mortal is the only one I know who needs a soul to bridge from mortal mind to morontia mind.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:46 PM

Ah! Thank you once again for a clarification! foV

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:18 AM

As best as I can tell, an Adjuster is necessary for the birth of a soul.


111:2.10 The inevitable result of such a contactual spiritualization of the human mind is the gradual birth of a soul, the joint offspring of an adjutant mind dominated by a human will that craves to know God, working in liaison with the spiritual forces of the universe which are under the overcontrol of an actual fragment of the very God of all creation—the Mystery Monitor. And thus does the material and mortal reality of the self transcend the temporal limitations of the physical-life machine and attain a new expression and a new identification in the evolving vehicle for selfhood continuity, the morontia and immortal soul.

Mortals require a soul in order to become immortal. Midwayers are already immortal. The mortal soul is the morontia mind; midwayers already have a morontia mind.

38:9.7 Secondary midwayers are physically energized by the Adamic technique, spiritually encircuited by the seraphic, and intellectually endowed with the morontia transition type of mind. They are divided into four physical types, seven orders spiritually, and twelve levels of intellectual response to the joint ministry of the last two adjutant spirits and the morontia mind. These diversities determine their differential of activity and of planetary assignment.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:40 AM

As best as I can tell, an Adjuster is necessary for the birth of a soul.


111:2.10 The inevitable result of such a contactual spiritualization of the human mind is the gradual birth of a soul, the joint offspring of an adjutant mind dominated by a human will that craves to know God, working in liaison with the spiritual forces of the universe which are under the overcontrol of an actual fragment of the very God of all creation—the Mystery Monitor. And thus does the material and mortal reality of the self transcend the temporal limitations of the physical-life machine and attain a new expression and a new identification in the evolving vehicle for selfhood continuity, the morontia and immortal soul.

Mortals require a soul in order to become immortal. Midwayers are already immortal. The mortal soul is the morontia mind; midwayers already have a morontia mind.

38:9.7 Secondary midwayers are physically energized by the Adamic technique, spiritually encircuited by the seraphic, and intellectually endowed with the morontia transition type of mind. They are divided into four physical types, seven orders spiritually, and twelve levels of intellectual response to the joint ministry of the last two adjutant spirits and the morontia mind. These diversities determine their differential of activity and of planetary assignment.



In this case I must disagree. In the quotes used above, "gradual birth of a soul, the joint offspring of an adjutant mind dominated by human will ..." refers to "adjutant" not "Adjuster" - "the Mystery Monitor" is a compound of the Adjuster, through mortal progression with "the physical-life machine" therefore attaining "a new expression and a new identification - "morontia and immortal soul."
Adam and Eve did not have "Adjusters" but through "Adamic technique" - "spiritually encircuited by the seraphic", (seven orders) "and intellectually" (twelve leveled) endowment of four physical and mind types. Therefore, through various combinations through these "diversities determine their" differences and types and various resulting souls dependent on the "physical-life machine".

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:38 AM

In this case I must disagree. In the quotes used above, "gradual birth of a soul, the joint offspring of an adjutant mind dominated by human will ..." refers to "adjutant" not "Adjuster" - "the Mystery Monitor" is a compound of the Adjuster, through mortal progression with "the physical-life machine" therefore attaining "a new expression and a new identification - "morontia and immortal soul."


Not sure what you're talking about here EEB. I can't understand what you wrote.

First of all, human will is part of personality; the two are a package. Human mind does not have will. Will belongs solely to personality. The soul is the joint offspring of an 1). adjutant mind dominated by the human will of a personality who desires to be godlike, in liaison with 2). the Mystery Monitor/Thought Adjuster (same thing). The soul is midway between material and spirit levels. The adjutant mind is material and the Adjuster is spirit. The personality makes the choice, acts upon it and a personal religious experience results in the growth of morontia character and mind, aka, soul.

Adam and Eve did not have "Adjusters" but through "Adamic technique" - "spiritually encircuited by the seraphic", (seven orders) "and intellectually" (twelve leveled) endowment of four physical and mind types. Therefore, through various combinations through these "diversities determine their" differences and types and various resulting souls dependent on the "physical-life machine".


Where'd you read that? You must mean the midwayers, not Adam and Eve. Midwayers have the morontia transition type of mind which is the same level of mind as the soul, but it is endowed rather than co-created. Mortals have to co-create their morontia mind (soul) with an Adjuster, they don't automatically get it.

38:9.7 Secondary midwayers are physically energized by the Adamic technique, spiritually encircuited by the seraphic, and intellectually endowed with the morontia transition type of mind. They are divided into four physical types, seven orders spiritually, and twelve levels of intellectual response to the joint ministry of the last two adjutant spirits and the morontia mind. These diversities determine their differential of activity and of planetary assignment.

Adam and Eve had Adjusters after their default. Before their default, they didn't need Adjusters because their minds were in full contact with the spiritual realm. Once they became human, like us, they needed the Adjuster as a source of Spirit contact. The word soul, simply means a particular type of morontia mind co-created between creature and Creator. Adam and Eve had access to the morontia level of the cosmic mind prior to default. (Incidentally, there are different modifications of the morontia level of cosmic mind.) The midwayers are midway between humans and Material Sons and Daughters. If midwayers have morontia mind, then Material Sons and Daughters have that and probably an even higher level of mind.

76:5.2 Adam and Eve did not, as citizens of Jerusem, have Thought Adjusters, nor were they Adjuster indwelt when they functioned on Urantia in the first garden. But shortly after their reduction to mortal status they became conscious of a new presence within them and awakened to the realization that human status coupled with sincere repentance had made it possible for Adjusters to indwell them. It was this knowledge of being Adjuster indwelt that greatly heartened Adam and Eve throughout the remainder of their lives; they knew that they had failed as Material Sons of Satania, but they also knew that the Paradise career was still open to them as ascending sons of the universe.

I'll have to guess that once Adam and Eve got their Adjusters they began growing souls as well. They would have to have one in order to be repersonalized on mansonia and to begin their ascending career. In order to become an ascending son, you have to fuse with your Adjuster, and the Adjuster fuses with the soul.

40:7.2 When you and your Adjusters are finally and forever fused, when you two are made one, even as in Christ Michael the Son of God and the Son of Man are one, then in fact have you become the ascending sons of God.

40:6.1 You will be reckoned as ascending sons the instant fusion takes place, but the status of the mortals of time and space is that of faith sons prior to the event of the final amalgamation of the surviving mortal soul with some type of eternal and immortal spirit.

110.7.2 When a human being has completed the circles of cosmic achievement, and further, when the final choosing of the mortal will permits the Adjuster to complete the association of human identity with the morontial soul during evolutionary and physical life, then do such consummated liaisons of soul and Adjuster go on independently to the mansion worlds, and there is issued the mandate from Uversa which provides for the immediate fusion of the Adjuster and the morontial soul.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:22 PM

Not sure what you're talking about here EEB. I can't understand what you wrote.

First of all, human will is part of personality; the two are a package. Human mind does not have will. Will belongs solely to personality. The soul is the joint offspring of an 1). adjutant mind dominated by the human will of a personality who desires to be godlike, in liaison with 2). the Mystery Monitor/Thought Adjuster (same thing). The soul is midway between material and spirit levels. The adjutant mind is material and the Adjuster is spirit. The personality makes the choice, acts upon it and a personal religious experience results in the growth of morontia character and mind, aka, soul.


(71.1) 5:6.6 Capacity for divine personality is inherent in the prepersonal Adjuster; capacity for human personality is potential in the cosmic-mind endowment of the human being. But the experiential personality of mortal man is not observable as an active and functional reality until after the material life vehicle of the mortal creature has been touched by the liberating divinity of the Universal Father, being thus launched upon the seas of experience as a self-conscious and a (relatively) self-determinative and self-creative personality. The material self is truly and unqualifiedly personal.

(71.2) 5:6.7 The material self has personality and identity, temporal identity; the prepersonal spirit Adjuster also has identity, eternal identity. This material personality and this spirit prepersonality are capable of so uniting their creative attributes as to bring into existence the surviving identity of the immortal soul.

(71.3) 5:6.8 Having thus provided for the growth of the immortal soul and having liberated man’s inner self from the fetters of absolute dependence on antecedent causation, the Father stands aside. Now, man having thus been liberated from the fetters of causation response, at least as pertains to eternal destiny, and provision having been made for the growth of the immortal self, the soul, it remains for man himself to will the creation or to inhibit the creation of this surviving and eternal self which is his for the choosing. No other being, force, creator, or agency in all the wide universe of universes can interfere to any degree with the absolute sovereignty of the mortal free will, as it operates within the realms of choice, regarding the eternal destiny of the personality of the choosing mortal. As pertains to eternal survival, God has decreed the sovereignty of the material and mortal will, and that decree is absolute.

(71.4) 5:6.9 The bestowal of creature personality confers relative liberation from slavish response to antecedent causation, and the personalities of all such moral beings, evolutionary or otherwise, are centered in the personality of the Universal Father. They are ever drawn towards his Paradise presence by that kinship of being which constitutes the vast and universal family circle and fraternal circuit of the eternal God. There is a kinship of divine spontaneity in all personality.

(71.5) 5:6.10 The personality circuit of the universe of universes is centered in the person of the Universal Father, and the Paradise Father is personally conscious of, and in personal touch with, all personalities of all levels of self-conscious existence. And this personality consciousness of all creation exists independently of the mission of the Thought Adjusters.

Where'd you read that? You must mean the midwayers, not Adam and Eve. Midwayers have the morontia transition type of mind which is the same level of mind as the soul, but it is endowed rather than co-created. Mortals have to co-create their morontia mind (soul) with an Adjuster, they don't automatically get it.

38:9.7 Secondary midwayers are physically energized by the Adamic technique, spiritually encircuited by the seraphic, and intellectually endowed with the morontia transition type of mind. They are divided into four physical types, seven orders spiritually, and twelve levels of intellectual response to the joint ministry of the last two adjutant spirits and the morontia mind. These diversities determine their differential of activity and of planetary assignment.

Adam and Eve had Adjusters after their default. Before their default, they didn't need Adjusters because their minds were in full contact with the spiritual realm. Once they became human, like us, they needed the Adjuster as a source of Spirit contact. The word soul, simply means a particular type of morontia mind co-created between creature and Creator. Adam and Eve had access to the morontia level of the cosmic mind prior to default. (Incidentally, there are different modifications of the morontia level of cosmic mind.) The midwayers are midway between humans and Material Sons and Daughters. If midwayers have morontia mind, then Material Sons and Daughters have that and probably an even higher level of mind.


In the following quote, I find that it proposes the definition of a “midwayer” in that they are between the “material” reality and the “spiritual” reality. Being able to appear (visible) to mortals in the material reality as well as being able to step out of the material into the spiritual (invisible) reality. It would be evident by Jesus appearing to the disciples after His resurrection to a morontia being thereby having a morontia mind but “Material Sons and Daughters” would most likely not have a morontia mind, being that they are still fully “material”.

(2022.4) 189:1.13 Now is the mortal transit of Jesus — the morontia resurrection of the Son of Man — completed. The transitory experience of the Master as a personality midway between the material and the spiritual has begun. And he has done all this through power inherent within himself; no personality has rendered him any assistance. He now lives as Jesus of morontia, and as he begins this morontia life, the material body of his flesh lies there undisturbed in the tomb. The soldiers are still on guard, and the seal of the governor about the rocks has not yet been broken.

The following quote, which the last sentence was underlined, does not prove that Adam and Eve, actually had a Adjuster. Within its grammar, it is implied through the “knowledge of being” able to be indwelt, but they would have to make a conscious decision to do so. The “new presence within them” is the realization that they were becoming human and since they were specially created, to live in the first Eden, prior to the fall, were not able to be seen by material mortals, which would not have been changed. Vary similar to the Prince’s staff, which were most likely classified as Midwayers.

76:5.2 Adam and Eve did not, as citizens of Jerusem, have Thought Adjusters, nor were they Adjuster indwelt when they functioned on Urantia in the first garden. But shortly after their reduction to mortal status they became conscious of a new presence within them and awakened to the realization that human status coupled with sincere repentance had made it possible for Adjusters to indwell them. It was this knowledge of being Adjuster indwelt that greatly heartened Adam and Eve throughout the remainder of their lives; they knew that they had failed as Material Sons of Satania, but they also knew that the Paradise career was still open to them as ascending sons of the universe.

I'll have to guess that once Adam and Eve got their Adjusters they began growing souls as well. They would have to have one in order to be repersonalized on mansonia and to begin their ascending career. In order to become an ascending son, you have to fuse with your Adjuster, and the Adjuster fuses with the soul.

40:7.2 When you and your Adjusters are finally and forever fused, when you two are made one, even as in Christ Michael the Son of God and the Son of Man are one, then in fact have you become the ascending sons of God.

40:6.1 You will be reckoned as ascending sons the instant fusion takes place, but the status of the mortals of time and space is that of faith sons prior to the event of the final amalgamation of the surviving mortal soul with some type of eternal and immortal spirit.

110.7.2 When a human being has completed the circles of cosmic achievement, and further, when the final choosing of the mortal will permits the Adjuster to complete the association of human identity with the morontial soul during evolutionary and physical life, then do such consummated liaisons of soul and Adjuster go on independently to the mansion worlds, and there is issued the mandate from Uversa which provides for the immediate fusion of the Adjuster and the morontial soul.


Regarding “Mystery Monitors” and “Thought Adjusters” — Yes they might be considered the same but they are not. The mystery monitor is at a different (higher) level that the adjuster and only indwells the mortal when the material personality and the spirit personality have become one, although the mystery monitor may be resident, but does not become the surviving identity of the immortal soul until God-consciousness.

(25.1) 1:3.1 “God is spirit.” He is a universal spiritual presence. The Universal Father is an infinite spiritual reality; he is “the sovereign, eternal, immortal, invisible, and only true God.” Even though you are “the offspring of God,” you ought not to think that the Father is like yourselves in form and physique because you are said to be created “in his image” — indwelt by Mystery Monitors dispatched from the central abode of his eternal presence. Spirit beings are real, notwithstanding they are invisible to human eyes; even though they have not flesh and blood.

(34.6) 2:1.7 And all this necessitates such arrangements for contact and communication with his manifold creatures as have been ordained, first, in the personalities of the Paradise Sons of God, who, although perfect in divinity, also often partake of the nature of the very flesh and blood of the planetary races, becoming one of you and one with you; thus, as it were, God becomes man, as occurred in the bestowal of Michael, who was called interchangeably the Son of God and the Son of Man. And second, there are the personalities of the Infinite Spirit, the various orders of the seraphic hosts and other celestial intelligences who draw near to the material beings of lowly origin and in so many ways minister to them and serve them. And third, there are the impersonal Mystery Monitors, Thought Adjusters, the actual gift of the great God himself sent to indwell such as the humans of Urantia, sent without announcement and without explanation. In endless profusion they descend from the heights of glory to grace and indwell the humble minds of those mortals who possess the capacity for God-consciousness or the potential therefor.

(46.3) 3:1.11 While the Father parentally encircuits all his sons — all personalities — his influence in them is limited by the remoteness of their origin from the Second and the Third Persons of Deity and augmented as their destiny attainment nears such levels. The fact of God’s presence in creature minds is determined by whether or not they are indwelt by Father fragments, such as the Mystery Monitors, but his effective presence is determined by the degree of co-operation accorded these indwelling Adjusters by the minds of their sojourn.

(63.7) 5:1.9 The fact that vast time is involved in the attainment of God makes the presence and personality of the Infinite none the less real. Your ascension is a part of the circuit of the seven superuniverses, and though you swing around it countless times, you may expect, in spirit and in status, to be ever swinging inward. You can depend upon being translated from sphere to sphere, from the outer circuits ever nearer the inner center, and some day, doubt not, you shall stand in the divine and central presence and see him, figuratively speaking, face to face. It is a question of the attainment of actual and literal spiritual levels; and these spiritual levels are attainable by any being who has been indwelt by a Mystery Monitor, and who has subsequently eternally fused with that Thought Adjuster.

In the quote above, note the last sentence and that both “Mystery Monitor” and “Thought Adjuster” are used differently in the one indwells and the other is fusable.

(64.6) 5:2.3 The divine presence cannot, however, be discovered anywhere in nature or even in the lives of God-knowing mortals so fully and so certainly as in your attempted communion with the indwelling Mystery Monitor, the Paradise Thought Adjuster. What a mistake to dream of God far off in the skies when the spirit of the Universal Father lives within your own mind!

In the quote above the “Mystery Monitor” has been compared to “the Paradise Thought Adjuster” and not just Thought Adjuster, which their origin may be the same but their level is different.

(64.7) 5:2.4 It is because of this God fragment that indwells you that you can hope, as you progress in harmonizing with the Adjuster’s spiritual leadings, more fully to discern the presence and transforming power of those other spiritual influences that surround you and impinge upon you but do not function as an integral part of you. The fact that you are not intellectually conscious of close and intimate contact with the indwelling Adjuster does not in the least disprove such an exalted experience. The proof of fraternity with the divine Adjuster consists wholly in the nature and extent of the fruits of the spirit which are yielded in the life experience of the individual believer. “By their fruits you shall know them.”

(65.1) 5:2.5 It is exceedingly difficult for the meagerly spiritualized, material mind of mortal man to experience marked consciousness of the spirit activities of such divine entities as the Paradise Adjusters. As the soul of joint mind and Adjuster creation becomes increasingly existent, there also evolves a new phase of soul consciousness which is capable of experiencing the presence, and of recognizing the spirit leadings and other supermaterial activities, of the Mystery Monitors.

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(69.8) 5:5.13 Eternal survival of personality is wholly dependent on the choosing of the mortal mind, whose decisions determine the survival potential of the immortal soul. When the mind believes God and the soul knows God, and when, with the fostering Adjuster, they all desire God, then is survival assured. Limitations of intellect, curtailment of education, deprivation of culture, impoverishment of social status, even inferiority of the human standards of morality resulting from the unfortunate lack of educational, cultural, and social advantages, cannot invalidate the presence of the divine spirit in such unfortunate and humanly handicapped but believing individuals. The indwelling of the Mystery Monitor constitutes the inception and insures the possibility of the potential of growth and survival of the immortal soul.

(70.1) 5:5.14 The ability of mortal parents to procreate is not predicated on their educational, cultural, social, or economic status. The union of the parental factors under natural conditions is quite sufficient to initiate offspring. A human mind discerning right and wrong and possessing the capacity to worship God, in union with a divine Adjuster, is all that is required in that mortal to initiate and foster the production of his immortal soul of survival qualities if such a spirit-endowed individual seeks God and sincerely desires to become like him, honestly elects to do the will of the Father in heaven.

(70.3) 5:6.2 Personality is one of the unsolved mysteries of the universes. We are able to form adequate concepts of the factors entering into the make-up of various orders and levels of personality, but we do not fully comprehend the real nature of the personality itself. We clearly perceive the numerous factors which, when put together, constitute the vehicle for human personality, but we do not fully comprehend the nature and significance of such a finite personality.

(70.4) 5:6.3 Personality is potential in all creatures who possess a mind endowment ranging from the minimum of self-consciousness to the maximum of God-consciousness. But mind endowment alone is not personality, neither is spirit nor physical energy. Personality is that quality and value in cosmic reality which is exclusively bestowed by God the Father upon these living systems of the associated and co-ordinated energies of matter, mind, and spirit. Neither is personality a progressive achievement. Personality may be material or spiritual, but there either is personality or there is no personality. The other-than-personal never attains the level of the personal except by the direct act of the Paradise Father.

Based on the above quote content, I am not sure how “human will is part of personality” and how “the two are a package”?

Edited by EEB aka AASB-AWSW, 19 January 2013 - 10:31 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:44 AM

(71.1) 5:6.6 Capacity for divine personality is inherent in the prepersonal Adjuster; capacity for human personality is potential in the cosmic-mind endowment of the human being. But the experiential personality of mortal man is not observable as an active and functional reality until after the material life vehicle of the mortal creature has been touched by the liberating divinity of the Universal Father, being thus launched upon the seas of experience as a self-conscious and a (relatively) self-determinative and self-creative personality. The material self is truly and unqualifiedly personal.

(71.2) 5:6.7 The material self has personality and identity, temporal identity; the prepersonal spirit Adjuster also has identity, eternal identity. This material personality and this spirit prepersonality are capable of so uniting their creative attributes as to bring into existence the surviving identity of the immortal soul.

(71.3) 5:6.8 Having thus provided for the growth of the immortal soul and having liberated man’s inner self from the fetters of absolute dependence on antecedent causation, the Father stands aside. Now, man having thus been liberated from the fetters of causation response, at least as pertains to eternal destiny, and provision having been made for the growth of the immortal self, the soul, it remains for man himself to will the creation or to inhibit the creation of this surviving and eternal self which is his for the choosing. No other being, force, creator, or agency in all the wide universe of universes can interfere to any degree with the absolute sovereignty of the mortal free will, as it operates within the realms of choice, regarding the eternal destiny of the personality of the choosing mortal. As pertains to eternal survival, God has decreed the sovereignty of the material and mortal will, and that decree is absolute.

(71.4) 5:6.9 The bestowal of creature personality confers relative liberation from slavish response to antecedent causation, and the personalities of all such moral beings, evolutionary or otherwise, are centered in the personality of the Universal Father. They are ever drawn towards his Paradise presence by that kinship of being which constitutes the vast and universal family circle and fraternal circuit of the eternal God. There is a kinship of divine spontaneity in all personality.

(71.5) 5:6.10 The personality circuit of the universe of universes is centered in the person of the Universal Father, and the Paradise Father is personally conscious of, and in personal touch with, all personalities of all levels of self-conscious existence. And this personality consciousness of all creation exists independently of the mission of the Thought Adjusters.



In the following quote, I find that it proposes the definition of a “midwayer” in that they are between the “material” reality and the “spiritual” reality. Being able to appear (visible) to mortals in the material reality as well as being able to step out of the material into the spiritual (invisible) reality. It would be evident by Jesus appearing to the disciples after His resurrection to a morontia being thereby having a morontia mind but “Material Sons and Daughters” would most likely not have a morontia mind, being that they are still fully “material”.

(2022.4) 189:1.13 Now is the mortal transit of Jesus — the morontia resurrection of the Son of Man — completed. The transitory experience of the Master as a personality midway between the material and the spiritual has begun. And he has done all this through power inherent within himself; no personality has rendered him any assistance. He now lives as Jesus of morontia, and as he begins this morontia life, the material body of his flesh lies there undisturbed in the tomb. The soldiers are still on guard, and the seal of the governor about the rocks has not yet been broken.

The following quote, which the last sentence was underlined, does not prove that Adam and Eve, actually had a Adjuster. Within its grammar, it is implied through the “knowledge of being” able to be indwelt, but they would have to make a conscious decision to do so. The “new presence within them” is the realization that they were becoming human and since they were specially created, to live in the first Eden, prior to the fall, were not able to be seen by material mortals, which would not have been changed. Vary similar to the Prince’s staff, which were most likely classified as Midwayers.



Regarding “Mystery Monitors” and “Thought Adjusters” — Yes they might be considered the same but they are not. The mystery monitor is at a different (higher) level that the adjuster and only indwells the mortal when the material personality and the spirit personality have become one, although the mystery monitor may be resident, but does not become the surviving identity of the immortal soul until God-consciousness.

(25.1) 1:3.1 “God is spirit.” He is a universal spiritual presence. The Universal Father is an infinite spiritual reality; he is “the sovereign, eternal, immortal, invisible, and only true God.” Even though you are “the offspring of God,” you ought not to think that the Father is like yourselves in form and physique because you are said to be created “in his image” — indwelt by Mystery Monitors dispatched from the central abode of his eternal presence. Spirit beings are real, notwithstanding they are invisible to human eyes; even though they have not flesh and blood.

(34.6) 2:1.7 And all this necessitates such arrangements for contact and communication with his manifold creatures as have been ordained, first, in the personalities of the Paradise Sons of God, who, although perfect in divinity, also often partake of the nature of the very flesh and blood of the planetary races, becoming one of you and one with you; thus, as it were, God becomes man, as occurred in the bestowal of Michael, who was called interchangeably the Son of God and the Son of Man. And second, there are the personalities of the Infinite Spirit, the various orders of the seraphic hosts and other celestial intelligences who draw near to the material beings of lowly origin and in so many ways minister to them and serve them. And third, there are the impersonal Mystery Monitors, Thought Adjusters, the actual gift of the great God himself sent to indwell such as the humans of Urantia, sent without announcement and without explanation. In endless profusion they descend from the heights of glory to grace and indwell the humble minds of those mortals who possess the capacity for God-consciousness or the potential therefor.

(46.3) 3:1.11 While the Father parentally encircuits all his sons — all personalities — his influence in them is limited by the remoteness of their origin from the Second and the Third Persons of Deity and augmented as their destiny attainment nears such levels. The fact of God’s presence in creature minds is determined by whether or not they are indwelt by Father fragments, such as the Mystery Monitors, but his effective presence is determined by the degree of co-operation accorded these indwelling Adjusters by the minds of their sojourn.

(63.7) 5:1.9 The fact that vast time is involved in the attainment of God makes the presence and personality of the Infinite none the less real. Your ascension is a part of the circuit of the seven superuniverses, and though you swing around it countless times, you may expect, in spirit and in status, to be ever swinging inward. You can depend upon being translated from sphere to sphere, from the outer circuits ever nearer the inner center, and some day, doubt not, you shall stand in the divine and central presence and see him, figuratively speaking, face to face. It is a question of the attainment of actual and literal spiritual levels; and these spiritual levels are attainable by any being who has been indwelt by a Mystery Monitor, and who has subsequently eternally fused with that Thought Adjuster.

In the quote above, note the last sentence and that both “Mystery Monitor” and “Thought Adjuster” are used differently in the one indwells and the other is fusable.

(64.6) 5:2.3 The divine presence cannot, however, be discovered anywhere in nature or even in the lives of God-knowing mortals so fully and so certainly as in your attempted communion with the indwelling Mystery Monitor, the Paradise Thought Adjuster. What a mistake to dream of God far off in the skies when the spirit of the Universal Father lives within your own mind!

In the quote above the “Mystery Monitor” has been compared to “the Paradise Thought Adjuster” and not just Thought Adjuster, which their origin may be the same but their level is different.

(64.7) 5:2.4 It is because of this God fragment that indwells you that you can hope, as you progress in harmonizing with the Adjuster’s spiritual leadings, more fully to discern the presence and transforming power of those other spiritual influences that surround you and impinge upon you but do not function as an integral part of you. The fact that you are not intellectually conscious of close and intimate contact with the indwelling Adjuster does not in the least disprove such an exalted experience. The proof of fraternity with the divine Adjuster consists wholly in the nature and extent of the fruits of the spirit which are yielded in the life experience of the individual believer. “By their fruits you shall know them.”

(65.1) 5:2.5 It is exceedingly difficult for the meagerly spiritualized, material mind of mortal man to experience marked consciousness of the spirit activities of such divine entities as the Paradise Adjusters. As the soul of joint mind and Adjuster creation becomes increasingly existent, there also evolves a new phase of soul consciousness which is capable of experiencing the presence, and of recognizing the spirit leadings and other supermaterial activities, of the Mystery Monitors.

Addition quotes related to personality:

(69.8) 5:5.13 Eternal survival of personality is wholly dependent on the choosing of the mortal mind, whose decisions determine the survival potential of the immortal soul. When the mind believes God and the soul knows God, and when, with the fostering Adjuster, they all desire God, then is survival assured. Limitations of intellect, curtailment of education, deprivation of culture, impoverishment of social status, even inferiority of the human standards of morality resulting from the unfortunate lack of educational, cultural, and social advantages, cannot invalidate the presence of the divine spirit in such unfortunate and humanly handicapped but believing individuals. The indwelling of the Mystery Monitor constitutes the inception and insures the possibility of the potential of growth and survival of the immortal soul.

(70.1) 5:5.14 The ability of mortal parents to procreate is not predicated on their educational, cultural, social, or economic status. The union of the parental factors under natural conditions is quite sufficient to initiate offspring. A human mind discerning right and wrong and possessing the capacity to worship God, in union with a divine Adjuster, is all that is required in that mortal to initiate and foster the production of his immortal soul of survival qualities if such a spirit-endowed individual seeks God and sincerely desires to become like him, honestly elects to do the will of the Father in heaven.

(70.3) 5:6.2 Personality is one of the unsolved mysteries of the universes. We are able to form adequate concepts of the factors entering into the make-up of various orders and levels of personality, but we do not fully comprehend the real nature of the personality itself. We clearly perceive the numerous factors which, when put together, constitute the vehicle for human personality, but we do not fully comprehend the nature and significance of such a finite personality.

(70.4) 5:6.3 Personality is potential in all creatures who possess a mind endowment ranging from the minimum of self-consciousness to the maximum of God-consciousness. But mind endowment alone is not personality, neither is spirit nor physical energy. Personality is that quality and value in cosmic reality which is exclusively bestowed by God the Father upon these living systems of the associated and co-ordinated energies of matter, mind, and spirit. Neither is personality a progressive achievement. Personality may be material or spiritual, but there either is personality or there is no personality. The other-than-personal never attains the level of the personal except by the direct act of the Paradise Father.

Based on the above quote content, I am not sure how “human will is part of personality” and how “the two are a package”?


Very interesting take! I always wondered why the revelators chose to have two different names to the Father fragment.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

In the following quote, I find that it proposes the definition of a “midwayer” in that they are between the “material” reality and the “spiritual” reality. Being able to appear (visible) to mortals in the material reality as well as being able to step out of the material into the spiritual (invisible) reality. It would be evident by Jesus appearing to the disciples after His resurrection to a morontia being thereby having a morontia mind but “Material Sons and Daughters” would most likely not have a morontia mind, being that they are still fully “material”.



EEB, Adam and Eve could see and hear morontia beings. Adam and Eve were not fully physical until after their default, when they also lost their dual circulation and the ability to see and hear beyond the physical level.

51:6.5 In these immortal Material Sons and Daughters we encounter the last and the indispensable link connecting God with man, bridging the almost infinite gulf between the eternal Creator and the lowest finite personalities of time. Here is a being of high origin who is physical, material, even a sex creature like Urantia mortals, one who can see and comprehend the invisible Planetary Prince and interpret him to the mortal creatures of the realm, for the Material Sons and Daughters are able to see all of the lower orders of spirit beings; they visualize the Planetary Prince and his entire staff, visible and invisible.

76:4.3 Adam and Eve, like their brethren on Jerusem, were energized by dual nutrition, subsisting on both food and light, supplemented by certain superphysical energies unrevealed on Urantia. Their Urantia offspring did not inherit the parental endowment of energy intake and light circulation. They had a single circulation, the human type of blood sustenance. They were designedly mortal though long-lived, albeit longevity gravitated toward the human norm with each succeeding generation.

The word material includes a wide range from the physical up to and including the morontia levels. Morontia is a gradual transition of the material towards the spiritual. Midwayers are considered to be material beings.

37:9.11 The Midway Creatures. In the early days of most inhabited worlds, certain superhuman but materialzed beings are of assignment, but they usually retire upon the arrival of the Planetary Adams.
38:9.4 2. Secondary Midwayers, the more material group of these creatures, vary greatly in numbers on the different worlds, though the average is around fifty thousand.

The mansion worlds are morontial but more toward the material. Our morontial bodies are material, but not physical.

47:9.5 You will greatly enjoy your progress through the seven dematerializing worlds; they are really demortalizing spheres. You are mostly human on the first mansion world, just a mortal being minus a material body, a human mind housed in a morontia form — a material body of the morontia world but not a mortal house of flesh and blood. You really pass from the mortal state to the immortal status at the time of Adjuster fusion, and by the time you have finished the Jerusem career, you will be full-fledged morontians.
48:2.22 While the basic morontia forms of life and matter are identical from the first mansion world to the last universe transition sphere, there is a functional progression which gradually extends from the material to the spiritual.

The following quote, which the last sentence was underlined, does not prove that Adam and Eve, actually had a Adjuster. Within its grammar, it is implied through the “knowledge of being” able to be indwelt, but they would have to make a conscious decision to do so. The “new presence within them” is the realization that they were becoming human and since they were specially created, to live in the first Eden, prior to the fall, were not able to be seen by material mortals, which would not have been changed. Vary similar to the Prince’s staff, which were most likely classified as Midwayers.



Read the quote again EEB. It says that their repentance made it possible for the Adjusters to indwell. Repentance is a conscious decision. Furthermore, it is not possible to be aware of a NEW PRESENCE within you unless there is someone else besides yourself within you. Who do you think that someone else was if not the Adjuster, God himself? Then, the quote goes on to say that they had the KNOWLEDGE of being Adjuster indwell. They knew the new presence within them. Knowledge comes from having a relationship.

76:5.2 Adam and Eve did not, as citizens of Jerusem, have Thought Adjusters, nor were they Adjuster indwelt when they functioned on Urantia in the first garden. But shortly after their reduction to mortal status they became conscious of a new presence within them and awakened to the realization that human status coupled with sincere repentance had made it possible for Adjusters to indwell them. It was this knowledge of being Adjuster indwelt that greatly heartened Adam and Eve throughout the remainder of their lives; they knew that they had failed as Material Sons of Satania, but they also knew that the Paradise career was still open to them as ascending sons of the universe.

Regarding “Mystery Monitors” and “Thought Adjusters” — Yes they might be considered the same but they are not. The mystery monitor is at a different (higher) level that the adjuster and only indwells the mortal when the material personality and the spirit personality have become one, although the mystery monitor may be resident, but does not become the surviving identity of the immortal soul until God-consciousness.



Here I'll say that you are, without a doubt, just dead wrong. Mystery Monitor and Thought Adjuster are synonyms, the names are completely interchangeable.

2:1.7 And third, there are the impersonal Mystery Monitors, Thought Adjusters, the actual gift of the great God himself sent to indwell such as the humans of Urantia, sent without announcement and without explanation. In endless profusion they descend from the heights of glory to grace and indwell the humble minds of those mortals who possess the capacity for God-consciousness or the potential therefor.

107:07 From this time to the attainment of the age of discretion, about forty years, the Mystery Monitors are called Thought Adjusters.

108:5.5 The Mystery Monitors are not thought helpers; they are thought adjusters.

(63.7) 5:1.9 The fact that vast time is involved in the attainment of God makes the presence and personality of the Infinite none the less real. Your ascension is a part of the circuit of the seven superuniverses, and though you swing around it countless times, you may expect, in spirit and in status, to be ever swinging inward. You can depend upon being translated from sphere to sphere, from the outer circuits ever nearer the inner center, and some day, doubt not, you shall stand in the divine and central presence and see him, figuratively speaking, face to face. It is a question of the attainment of actual and literal spiritual levels; and these spiritual levels are attainable by any being who has been indwelt by a Mystery Monitor, and who has subsequently eternally fused with that Thought Adjuster.

In the quote above, note the last sentence and that both “Mystery Monitor” and “Thought Adjuster” are used differently in the one indwells and the other is fusable.



No, I'm sorry. You're overlooking the word THAT. THAT Thought Adjuster means the Mystery Monitor just mentioned. They are one and the same.

(64.6) 5:2.3 The divine presence cannot, however, be discovered anywhere in nature or even in the lives of God-knowing mortals so fully and so certainly as in your attempted communion with the indwelling Mystery Monitor, the Paradise Thought Adjuster. What a mistake to dream of God far off in the skies when the spirit of the Universal Father lives within your own mind!

In the quote above the “Mystery Monitor” has been compared to “the Paradise Thought Adjuster” and not just Thought Adjuster, which their origin may be the same but their level is different.



No again. First of all, the presence of a comma after Mystery Monitor is meant to indicate that what follows is related, and in this case synonymous. The use of the word Paradise is simply a qualifier indicating the source of the Thought Adjuster. It is meant to indicate that you have Paradise within you, not far off in the skies.

Based on the above quote content, I am not sure how “human will is part of personality” and how “the two are a package”?



Well, you can be sure that it is. Volition does not exist without personality.


107:7.5 Throughout a universe of created beings and nonpersonal energies we do not observe will, volition, choice, and love manifested apart from personality.

16:8.5 Creature personality is distinguished by two self-manifesting and characteristic phenomena of mortal reactive behavior: self-consciousness and associated relative freewill.

16:8.7 The relative free will which characterizes the self-consciousness of human personality is involved in: . . .

118:7.7 Personality endowment comes from the Father and imparts unique prerogatives of choice to the living system.

14:2.9 Everything physical or spiritual is perfectly predictable, but mind phenomena and personality volition are not.

38:7.5 Only such as the subordinate beings of power control and energy direction are incapable of progression; all creatures having actual or potential personality volition seek new achievements.

107:7.4 Human will functions on the personality level of universe reality, and throughout the cosmos the impersonal — the nonpersonal, the subpersonal, and the prepersonal — is ever responsive to the will and acts of existent personality.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:57 PM

Bonita, my disagreement is not that “personality” is not linked or a part of “will” but with “human will”, which I had hoped to proffer by the lead quotes of my reply, in that “human will” should be replaced with “mortal will”, in that the subject title quires “Are humans the only creation to have soul potential?” Whereas the origin and history of the word “mortal”, listed below, from the Greek, and Germanic, “mortal thing or substance”, and from Latin “subject to death”.

http://dictionary.re...wse/mortal?s=t
Word Origin & History
mortal
mid-14c., "deadly," also "doomed to die," from O.Fr. mortel "destined to die," from L. mortalis "subject to death," from mors (gen. mortis) "death," from PIE base *mor-/*mr- "die" (cf. Skt. mrtih "death," Avestan miryeite "dies," O.Pers. martiya- "man," Armenian meranim "die," Lith. mirtis "mortal man,"
Gk. brotos "mortal" (hence ambrotos "immortal"), O.C.S. mrutvu "dead," O.Ir. marb, Welsh marw "died," O.E. morþ "murder"). The most widespread IE root for "to die," forming the common word for it except in Gk. and Gmc. The noun meaning "mortal thing or substance" is first recorded 1520s. Related: Mortally.

Regarding my ability to read and understand grammar, in your implication of how a comma can be used: I suggest you either get a copy of “Chicago Manual of Style”, if you do not have one, I will send you mine, but it's not the most recent edition, however, you can find information of this on the following URL: http://www.chicagoma....org/home.html
Notwithstanding, style, it can also pose as a definition of a previous term, especially when the comma’ed definition ends with a period or another comma or semicolon.

However, the main inference to the difference of “Mystery Monitor” is that in the UB, it is most often associated with “indwelling” or, “to indwell”, which is generally implied once a subject fusses with a Thought Adjuster, somewhat like a before and after scenario. Yes, I am fully aware that “Mystery Monitor” does often stand alone in the UB, in place of thought adjuster but, if one examines the UB you may find that there are different types of adjuster fusion with mortals. Therefore, the use of the “that” in the phrase “fused with that Thought Adjuster”, merely indicates back to the “subsequently” fused action, “attainable by any being”.

There are many ways to read, and everyone reads and comprehends differently, but I somewhat take exception, to attitudes which imply that I need to go back to school and clone myself to someone else’s intellect or way of thinking. Please do not take offence, because I have reached out to you before, to take these types of differences to the PM side of this forum, and you bluntly refused to accept my invitation. Or is it that you feel superior to all others who read the UB?

http://dictionary.re...se/indwell?s=t
Indwell – World English Dictionary
— vb, -dwells, -dwelling, -dwelt
1. ( tr ) (of a spirit, principle, etc) to inhabit; suffuse
2. ( intr ) to dwell; exist

Regarding Adam and Eve and Thought Adjusters — It is not my contention that Adam and Eve did not actually receive or obtain a Thought Adjuster, it is my contention that there is no proof that they did, notwithstanding, the memory of reading the UB for the first time. But there is enough UB verbiage to suggest that they did not as posted below.

The following quote might indicate that Though Adjusters of Adam and Eve’s day might have been cons crewed as a punishment for committing murder.

(836.9) 74:7.20 The moral law of Eden was little different from the seven commandments of Dalamatia. But the Adamites taught many additional reasons for these commands; for instance, regarding the injunction against murder, the indwelling of the Thought Adjuster was presented as an additional reason for not destroying human life. They taught that “whoso sheds man’s blood by man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of God made he man.”

In the following quote it is presumed and later indicated in the UB that the indwelling of an Adjuster is not automatic prior to the Pentecost and that an act of repentance, to some degree and the request for help, in this case, was required. Therefore, this would also be a probable condition or requirement for Adam and Eve.

(849.2) 76:2.8 Cain’s life in Mesopotamia had not been exactly happy since he was in such a peculiar way symbolic of the default. It was not that his associates were unkind to him, but he had not been unaware of their subconscious resentment of his presence. But Cain knew that, since he bore no tribal mark, he would be killed by the first neighboring tribesmen who might chance to meet him. Fear, and some remorse, led him to repent. Cain had never been indwelt by an Adjuster, had always been defiant of the family discipline and disdainful of his father’s religion. But he now went to Eve, his mother, and asked for spiritual help and guidance, and when he honestly sought divine assistance, an Adjuster indwelt him. And this Adjuster, dwelling within and looking out, gave Cain a distinct advantage of superiority which classed him with the greatly feared tribe of Adam.

The following quote used previously can be read and understood differently “but they also knew that the Paradise career was still open to them as ascending sons of the universe.”

(852.1) 76:5.2 Adam and Eve did not, as citizens of Jerusem, have Thought Adjusters, nor were they Adjuster indwelt when they functioned on Urantia in the first garden. But shortly after their reduction to mortal status they became conscious of a new presence within them and awakened to the realization that human status coupled with sincere repentance had made it possible for Adjusters to indwell them. It was this knowledge of being Adjuster indwelt that greatly heartened Adam and Eve throughout the remainder of their lives; they knew that they had failed as Material Sons of Satania, but they also knew that the Paradise career was still open to them as ascending sons of the universe.

In the quote below, it would appear that Adam and Eve knew what would occur, being as mortals without a thought adjuster at death, where it is indicated that “you will be called from the embrace of mortal slumber”, indicating the mortal sleep for those who have not fused at death. By this understanding would have been a more probable desire for them, which would be shortened through the “dispensational resurrection” over the paradise ascension process.

(852.2) 76:5.3 Adam knew about the dispensational resurrection which occurred simultaneously with his arrival on the planet, and he believed that he and his companion would probably be repersonalized in connection with the advent of the next order of sonship. He did not know that Michael, the sovereign of this universe, was so soon to appear on Urantia; he expected that the next Son to arrive would be of the Avonal order. Even so, it was always a comfort to Adam and Eve, as well as something difficult for them to understand, to ponder the only personal message they ever received from Michael. This message, among other expressions of friendship and comfort, said: “I have given consideration to the circumstances of your default, I have remembered the desire of your hearts ever to be loyal to my Father’s will, and you will be called from the embrace of mortal slumber when I come to Urantia if the subordinate Sons of my realm do not send for you before that time.”

(852.3) 76:5.4 And this was a great mystery to Adam and Eve. They could comprehend the veiled promise of a possible special resurrection in this message, and such a possibility greatly cheered them, but they could not grasp the meaning of the intimation that they might rest until the time of a resurrection associated with Michael’s personal appearance on Urantia. And so the Edenic pair always proclaimed that a Son of God would sometime come, and they communicated to their loved ones the belief, at least the longing hope, that the world of their blunders and sorrows might possibly be the realm whereon the ruler of this universe would elect to function as the Paradise bestowal Son. It seemed too good to be true, but Adam did entertain the thought that strife-torn Urantia might, after all, turn out to be the most fortunate world in the system of Satania, the envied planet of all Nebadon.

I believe that Adam and Eve not being able to “grasp the meaning” is due to the difference between “slumber” and “rest” verses “sleep”. The quotes below gives their actual account according to the UB.

6. Survival of Adam and Eve

(853.2) 76:6.1 Adam and Eve went to their mortal rest with strong faith in the promises made to them by the Melchizedeks that they would sometime awake from the sleep of death to resume life on the mansion worlds, worlds all so familiar to them in the days preceding their mission in the material flesh of the violet race on Urantia.

(853.3) 76:6.2 They did not long rest in the oblivion of the unconscious sleep of the mortals of the realm. On the third day after Adam’s death, the second following his reverent burial, the orders of Lanaforge, sustained by the acting Most High of Edentia and concurred in by the Union of Days on Salvington, acting for Michael, were placed in Gabriel’s hands, directing the special roll call of the distinguished survivors of the Adamic default on Urantia. And in accordance with this mandate of special resurrection, number twenty-six of the Urantia series, Adam and Eve were repersonalized and reassembled in the resurrection halls of the mansion worlds of Satania together with 1,316 of their associates in the experience of the first garden. Many other loyal souls had already been translated at the time of Adam’s arrival, which was attended by a dispensational adjudication of both the sleeping survivors and of the living qualified ascenders.

(853.4) 76:6.3 Adam and Eve quickly passed through the worlds of progressive ascension until they attained citizenship on Jerusem, once again to be residents of the planet of their origin but this time as members of a different order of universe personalities. They left Jerusem as permanent citizens — Sons of God; they returned as ascendant citizens — sons of man. They were immediately attached to the Urantia service on the system capital, later being assigned membership among the four and twenty counselors who constitute the present advisory-control body of Urantia.


The quotes regarding Midwayers should shed some light on my inference and belief regarding being “midway” between an upper and lower realm and that there is a difference between material and spiritual realms of reality regardless of that I believe that there are beings who can see both. Rereading the section on Midwayers, has also been enlightening.

Midwayers

(865.3) 77:8.10 Midwayers vary greatly in their abilities to make contact with the seraphim above and with their human cousins below. It is exceedingly difficult, for instance, for the primary midwayers to make direct contact with material agencies. They are considerably nearer the angelic type of being and are therefore usually assigned to working with, and ministering to, the spiritual forces resident on the planet. They act as companions and guides for celestial visitors and student sojourners, whereas the secondary creatures are almost exclusively attached to the ministry of the material beings of the realm.

(865.4) 77:8.11 The 1,111 loyal secondary midwayers are engaged in important missions on earth. As compared with their primary associates, they are decidedly material. They exist just outside the range of mortal vision and possess sufficient latitude of adaptation to make, at will, physical contact with what humans call “material things.” These unique creatures have certain definite powers over the things of time and space, not excepting the beasts of the realm.

(865.5) 77:8.12 Many of the more literal phenomena ascribed to angels have been performed by the secondary midway creatures. When the early teachers of the gospel of Jesus were thrown into prison by the ignorant religious leaders of that day, an actual “angel of the Lord” “by night opened the prison doors and brought them forth.” But in the case of Peter’s deliverance after the killing of James by Herod’s order, it was a secondary midwayer who performed the work ascribed to an angel.

(865.6) 77:8.13 Their chief work today is that of unperceived personal-liaison associates of those men and women who constitute the planetary reserve corps of destiny. It was the work of this secondary group, ably seconded by certain of the primary corps, that brought about the co-ordination of personalities and circumstances on Urantia which finally induced the planetary celestial supervisors to initiate those petitions that resulted in the granting of the mandates making possible the series of revelations of which this presentation is a part. But it should be made clear that the midway creatures are not involved in the sordid performances taking place under the general designation of “spiritualism.” The midwayers at present on Urantia, all of whom are of honorable standing, are not connected with the phenomena of so-called “mediumship”; and they do not, ordinarily, permit humans to witness their sometimes necessary physical activities or other contacts with the material world, as they are perceived by human senses.

Edited by EEB aka AASB-AWSW, 20 January 2013 - 11:14 PM.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:24 AM

Hmmmm. If Mystery Monitors and Thought Adjusters are two separate entities with different functions, then why isn't there a paper in TUB, or at least a section of a paper, explaining it? Seems to me that the revelators wouldn't leave out something that important.

And I can't find the word mortal anywhere in this sentence, a sentence that unequivocally and unambiguously makes volition and personality inseparable whether it be mortal, or immortal.

107:7.5 Throughout a universe of created beings and nonpersonal energies we do not observe will, volition, choice, and love manifested apart from personality.

Anyway, back to the topic. I can't find anything in TUB that indicates that a soul is possible without the spiritual input of a Thought Adjuster/Mystery Monitor. But I think the question that naturally flows from that is why is a soul necessary for survival? Why is survival different? Why don't all immortal beings have souls too? And of course, the answer I came up with is that humans require something morontial to carry over to the morontia level in order to function there. Personality needs a vehicle, a mind with which to function. But why aren't we just given one? Why isn't survival automatic?

Since immortal personalities already have access to the morontia level of the cosmic mind and higher, they don't need to acquire the right to utilize higher levels of mind by choice and by character growth; they're created with all that from the git-go. We are different because as physical beings we have dual natures; we have to choose one or the other. Where else do you see personalities having to struggle with dual natures except on the physical level? It's quite an exciting and exceptional thing to know that no one other than we mortals and our bestowal Son have to deal with that problem. It's an honor, really.




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