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#21 Bonita

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:54 AM

169:4.2  Jesus never gave his apostles a systematic lesson concerning the personality and attributes of the Father in heaven. He never asked men to believe in his Father; he took it for granted they did. Jesus never belittled himself by offering arguments in proof of the reality of the Father. His teaching regarding the Father all centered in the declaration that he and the Father are one; that he who has seen the Son has seen the Father; that the Father, like the Son, knows all things; that only the Son really knows the Father, and he to whom the Son will reveal him; that he who knows the Son knows also the Father; and that the Father sent him into the world to reveal their combined natures and to show forth their conjoint work. He never made other pronouncements about his Father except to the woman of Samaria at Jacob’s well, when he declared, “God is spirit.”



Although Jesus is the revelation of the Father's personality, he never gave any instructions concerning that revelation, just as he never gave any systematic method of individual prayer or worship.

5:3.3 We do not worship the Father because of anything we may derive from such veneration; we render such devotion and engage in such worship as a natural and spontaneous reaction to the recognition of the Father’s matchless personality and because of his lovable nature and adorable attributes.



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Posted 30 June 2011 - 01:57 PM

also: 140:8.12 The nearest he came to making sociological pronouncements was to say, “judge not, that you be not judged.”

Although Jesus is the revelation of the Father's personality, he never gave any instructions concerning that revelation, just as he never gave any systematic method of individual prayer or worship.



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Posted 01 July 2011 - 10:02 AM

169:1.15 Jesus was very partial to telling these three stories at the same time. He presented the story of the lost sheep to show that, when men unintentionally stray away from the path of life, the Father is mindful of such lost ones and goes out, with his Sons, the true shepherds of the flock, to seek the lost sheep. He then would recite the story of the coin lost in the house to illustrate how thorough is the divine searching for all who are confused, confounded, or otherwise spiritually blinded by the material cares and accumulations of life. And then he would launch forth into the telling of this parable of the lost son, the reception of the returning prodigal, to show how complete is the restoration of the lost son into his Father’s house and heart.



So much of evolutionary religion is involved in the teaching that punishment is in store for those who stray. In the above quote Jesus reveals a new revelation of the Father's personality which indicates that he knows full well that we will occasionally stray from the living Way and that it is not a punishable offense. An error? Yes. But just like the father of a human child who wanders away from home, he will search high and low for the lost child and celebrate when he/she is found. I find this so comforting, whereas the horrible fear of punishment that human based religions force on the soul is a useless burden and a stumbling block to true spiritual growth.

Wouldn't you prefer to flee from a punishing parent? How can hellfire and damnation or crushing guilt and fear ever bring a lost child home? I see only a few options: 1) The terrified and intimidated child accepts the punishment and lives a life of submission; or 2) the child runs further away seeking comfort and pleasure elsewhere. It's no small wonder that there is such a rise in drug/alcohol abuse, feel-good spirituality, sexuality and other forms of escapism in a world where evolutionary religion has lost its flavor for so many. The third option, as I see it, is to accept revealed religion, be born of the spirit, and find one's true Father.

Jesus labored to set people free from the torment of submission to false religion. He offers an alternative and he lures them away from tyranny with love. His love is so powerful that it literally destroys fear and error. He said, "I am the true shepherd."

p1448:3 131:4.4 He is the supreme refuge of the universe and the changeless guardian of everlasting law. Our God is the Lord of life and the Comforter of all men; he is the lover of mankind and the helper of those who are distressed. He is our life giver and the Good Shepherd of the human flocks. God is our father, brother, and friend. And we long to know this God in our inner being.



And, to those who are meant to be undershepherds, Jesus gives the following advice:

165:2.6 You who would be the undershepherds of my Father’s flocks must not only be worthy leaders, but you must also feed the flock with good food; you are not true shepherds unless you lead your flocks into green pastures and beside still waters.



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Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:31 PM

eternal survival is a very long process and i think people just don't feel like going on after a certain long period of time, after their resurrection and time spent on mansion worlds. there's probably more cases of this than evil beings deliberately adjudicated and destroyed.

Wouldn't you prefer to flee from a punishing parent? How can hellfire and damnation or crushing guilt and fear ever bring a lost child home?



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Posted 02 July 2011 - 04:05 PM

eternal survival is a very long process and i think people just don't feel like going on after a certain long period of time, after their resurrection and time spent on mansion worlds. there's probably more cases of this than evil beings deliberately adjudicated and destroyed.


It's my opinion that people get weary of the process, here or on the mansion worlds, because they fail, or lack the desire, to take the self out of love.

555:05 You will learn that you increase your burdens and decrease the likelihood of success by taking yourself too seriously. Nothing can take precedence over the work of your status sphere--this world or the next. Very important is the work of preparation for the next higher sphere, but nothing equals the importance of the work of the world in which you are actually living. But though the work is important, the self is not. When you feel important, you lose energy to the wear and tear of ego identity so that there is little energy left to do the work. Self-importance, not work-importance, exhausts immature creatures; it is the self element that exhausts, not the effort to achieve. You can do important work if you do not become self-important; you can do several things as easily as one if you leave your self out.



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Posted 02 July 2011 - 10:14 PM

true, but there could be many different types of reasons for the choice to not go on with the eternal career, the sad fact is probably many are not evil there just 109:4.5 a slothful deserter.

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 06:46 AM

Sloth and desertion ARE evil.

The word "sloth" is used in TUB only to indicate a slow moving tropical mammal that hangs upside down from trees. But we all understand it to mean reluctance to make the necessary effort. Similarly, procrastination, ease seeking and indecision are also evil. Desertion is just another word for disloyalty and there is no question that disloyalty is evil.

89:10.2 Sin must be redefined as deliberate disloyalty to Deity. There are degrees of disloyalty: the partial loyalty of indecision; the divided loyalty of confliction; the dying loyalty of indifference; and the death of loyalty exhibited in devotion to godless ideals.

48:5.8 One of the purposes of the morontia career is to effect the permanent eradication from the mortal survivors of such animal vestigial traits as procrastination, equivocation, insincerity, problem avoidance, unfairness, and ease seeking. The mansonia life early teaches the young morontia pupils that postponement is in no sense avoidance. After the life in the flesh, time is no longer available as a technique of dodging situations or of circumventing disagreeable obligations.



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Posted 03 July 2011 - 07:53 AM

67:1.4 There are many ways of looking at sin, but from the universe philosophic viewpoint sin is the attitude of a personality who is knowingly resisting cosmic reality. error might be regarded as a misconception or distortion of reality. Evil is a partial realization of, or maladjustment to, universe realities. But sin is a purposeful resistance to divine reality — a conscious choosing to oppose spiritual progress — while iniquity consists in an open and persistent defiance of recognized reality and signifies such a degree of personality disintegration as to border on cosmic insanity.

you're right, according to the definitions here slothfulness is evil, sinful and iniquitous.

Sloth and desertion ARE evil.



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Posted 06 July 2011 - 09:00 AM

117:3.3 Said Jesus: “I am the living way,” and so he is the living way from the material level of self-consciousness to the spiritual level of God-consciousness. And even as he is this living way of ascension from the self to God, so is the Supreme the living way from finite consciousness to transcendence of consciousness, even to the insight of absonity.



Here TUB is very clear in saying that the living Way is a means of attaining a level of consciousness. What is God-consciousness? It is the integration of the self with the spiritual universe; it is insight into spiritual reality; it is a progressing personal religious experience.

196:3.34 The great challenge to modern man is to achieve better communication with the divine Monitor that dwells within the human mind. Man’s greatest adventure in the flesh consists in the well-balanced and sane effort to advance the borders of self-consciousness out through the dim realms of embryonic soul-consciousness in a wholehearted effort to reach the borderland of spirit-consciousness — contact with the divine presence. Such an experience constitutes God-consciousness, an experience mightily confirmative of the pre-existent truth of the religious experience of knowing God. Such spirit-consciousness is the equivalent of the knowledge of the actuality of sonship with God. Otherwise, the assurance of sonship is the experience of faith.



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Posted 07 July 2011 - 12:14 PM

Here TUB is very clear in saying that the living Way is a means of attaining a level of consciousness. What is God-consciousness? It is the integration of the self with the spiritual universe; it is insight into spiritual reality; it is a progressing personal religious experience.


very good.

196:3.34 The great challenge to modern man is to achieve better communication with the divine Monitor that dwells within the human mind. Man’s greatest adventure in the flesh consists in the well-balanced and sane effort to advance the borders of self-consciousness out through the dim realms of embryonic soul-consciousness in a wholehearted effort to reach the borderland of spirit-consciousness — contact with the divine presence. Such an experience constitutes God-consciousness, an experience mightily confirmative of the pre-existent truth of the religious experience of knowing God. Such spirit-consciousness is the equivalent of the knowledge of the actuality of sonship with God. Otherwise, the assurance of sonship is the experience of faith.


everyone is searching for this.

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 02:07 PM

everyone is searching for this.


Really? I wish it were true. I find that people are generally too preoccupied with living their lives to bother searching for anything of true value. The thrill of excitement and the lure of material treasure are much more tantalizing than religious devotions to the average person.

195:6.7 One of the great troubles with modern life is that man thinks he is too busy to find time for spiritual meditation and religious devotion.

100:1.2 Some persons are too busy to grow and are therefore in grave danger of spiritual fixation.



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Posted 08 July 2011 - 08:38 AM

in their own way even people that generally too preoccupied with living their lives to bother searching for anything of true value. The thrill of excitement and the lure of material treasure are seeking for true spirituality.

Really? I wish it were true. I find that people are generally too preoccupied with living their lives to bother searching for anything of true value. The thrill of excitement and the lure of material treasure are much more tantalizing than religious devotions to the average person.

195:6.7 One of the great troubles with modern life is that man thinks he is too busy to find time for spiritual meditation and religious devotion.

100:1.2 Some persons are too busy to grow and are therefore in grave danger of spiritual fixation.



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Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:03 AM

rich,

How does the lure of material treasure measure up as a means for seeking true spirituality?




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